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How legal is stripping the DRM like this? Can one get in trouble for this?

moviuro 7y ago
> Use of Kindle Content. [...]. Kindle Content is licensed, not sold, to you by the Content Provider. The Content Provider may include additional terms for use within its Kindle Content. Those terms will also apply, but this Agreement will govern in the event of a conflict. Some Kindle Content, such as interactive or highly formatted content, may not be available to you on all Kindle Applications. > [...] > Termination. Your rights under this Agreement will automatically terminate if you fail to comply with any term of this Agreement. [...]. https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_left_v4_sib?ie=UTF8&nodeId=201014950 https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_... So you may get in trouble if you're caught doing stupid things, yes. Will they bother though? Unlikely.
- ptah 7y ago
  physical books are so much better for this reason and generally cheaper
  - moviuro 7y ago
    https://twitter.com/rdonoghue/status/1144011630197522432 https://twitter.com/rdonoghue/status/1144011630197522432 and discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20297331 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20297331
  - atemerev 7y ago
    They are not “generally cheaper” (ebooks are usually about 30-50% cheaper), and much less convenient if you travel a lot.
    - ptah 7y ago
      typically on amazon you can find cheaper physical books via alternative sellers like bookdepository
      - atemerev 7y ago
        Not if you are not living in the US. For a European who wants to read English books, Kindle Store is a blessing.
        ptah 7y ago
        I'm in UK and prefer buying a book for 1p and pay £2 shipping than £11 pound for an ebook that i wont' even own, merely licence
    - ptah 7y ago
      also you have to buy a device to read them on
      - aw3c2 7y ago
        Once.
Kihashi 7y ago
In the US, it is probably[^1] illegal under the DMCA, however, exceptions to that law are determined every ?2? years by the library of congress. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201 https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/10/victory-users-librarian-congress-renews-and-expands-protections-fair-uses https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/10/victory-users-libraria... > The exemptions we requested—ripping DVDs and Blurays for making fair use remixes and analysis; preserving video games and running multiplayer servers after publishers have abandoned them; jailbreaking cell phones, tablets, and other portable computing devices to run third party software; and security research and modification and repairs on cars—have each been accepted, subject to some important caveats. [^1]: I am not a lawyer.

> Use of Kindle Content. [...]. Kindle Content is licensed, not sold, to you by the Content Provider. The Content Provider may include additional terms for use within its Kindle Content. Those terms will also apply, but this Agreement will govern in the event of a conflict. Some Kindle Content, such as interactive or highly formatted content, may not be available to you on all Kindle Applications. > [...] > Termination. Your rights under this Agreement will automatically terminate if you fail to comply with any term of this Agreement. [...]. https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_left_v4_sib?ie=UTF8&nodeId=201014950 https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_... So you may get in trouble if you're caught doing stupid things, yes. Will they bother though? Unlikely.

ptah 7y ago
physical books are so much better for this reason and generally cheaper
- moviuro 7y ago
  https://twitter.com/rdonoghue/status/1144011630197522432 https://twitter.com/rdonoghue/status/1144011630197522432 and discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20297331 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20297331
- atemerev 7y ago
  They are not “generally cheaper” (ebooks are usually about 30-50% cheaper), and much less convenient if you travel a lot.
  - ptah 7y ago
    typically on amazon you can find cheaper physical books via alternative sellers like bookdepository
    - atemerev 7y ago
      Not if you are not living in the US. For a European who wants to read English books, Kindle Store is a blessing.
      - ptah 7y ago
        I'm in UK and prefer buying a book for 1p and pay £2 shipping than £11 pound for an ebook that i wont' even own, merely licence
  - ptah 7y ago
    also you have to buy a device to read them on
    - aw3c2 7y ago
      Once.

Kihashi 7y ago

In the US, it is probably[^1] illegal under the DMCA, however, exceptions to that law are determined every ?2? years by the library of congress. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201 https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/10/victory-users-librarian-congress-renews-and-expands-protections-fair-uses https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/10/victory-users-libraria... > The exemptions we requested—ripping DVDs and Blurays for making fair use remixes and analysis; preserving video games and running multiplayer servers after publishers have abandoned them; jailbreaking cell phones, tablets, and other portable computing devices to run third party software; and security research and modification and repairs on cars—have each been accepted, subject to some important caveats. [^1]: I am not a lawyer.