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You should also take political action. With due respect to people who are trying to take positive individual action, it will not be enough. We've been waiting 3

You should also take political action. With due respect to people who are trying to take positive individual action, it will not be enough. We've been waiting 30 years and people are still driving SUVs. Only large scale government policy can move the needle for an entire society. Maybe you have political views that you find that distasteful, but unfortunately we're running out of time, and you'll have to choose between your politics and your future. https://www.sunrisemovement.org/ https://www.sunrisemovement.org/ http://rebellion.earth/ http://rebellion.earth/

martincollignon 7y ago
Everything will be needed - incl. political action. Not everyone wants to be political, and people should be offered other choices.
- dao- 7y ago
  GP said "You should also take political action", so this doesn't rule out individual action. GP's key point is that individual action would not be enough and you're not actually addressing that argument by just saying that not everyone wants to be political and that other choices would be nice.
- notabee 7y ago
  If people don't want to be political now, they're really not going to like the choices (or lack thereof) left after politics have failed and the crisis, famines, and other impacts start to become apparent to the general population. Choices are what we are rapidly running out of.
StudentStuff 7y ago
SUVs are becoming more popular despite the serious danger they pose to our environment, both in terms of climate change and significant danger to every other user of the road. Getting hit at 25mph is likely survivable if hit by a sedan (you'll land on the hood), but an SUV often flattens a person, as the force is applied to their mid to upper body rather than their legs. Car accidents are also much more catastrophic, our current testing in the USA only tests SUVs against SUVs, sedans vs sedans in crashes, and impact absorbers on SUVs are often higher, meaning the SUV will end up atop a sedan in an accident. These negative externalities are poorly regulated, permitting these needless deaths and injuries to occur.

martincollignon 7y ago

Everything will be needed - incl. political action. Not everyone wants to be political, and people should be offered other choices.

dao- 7y ago
GP said "You should also take political action", so this doesn't rule out individual action. GP's key point is that individual action would not be enough and you're not actually addressing that argument by just saying that not everyone wants to be political and that other choices would be nice.
notabee 7y ago
If people don't want to be political now, they're really not going to like the choices (or lack thereof) left after politics have failed and the crisis, famines, and other impacts start to become apparent to the general population. Choices are what we are rapidly running out of.

StudentStuff 7y ago

SUVs are becoming more popular despite the serious danger they pose to our environment, both in terms of climate change and significant danger to every other user of the road. Getting hit at 25mph is likely survivable if hit by a sedan (you'll land on the hood), but an SUV often flattens a person, as the force is applied to their mid to upper body rather than their legs. Car accidents are also much more catastrophic, our current testing in the USA only tests SUVs against SUVs, sedans vs sedans in crashes, and impact absorbers on SUVs are often higher, meaning the SUV will end up atop a sedan in an accident. These negative externalities are poorly regulated, permitting these needless deaths and injuries to occur.