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Isn’t being a vet in Germany more lucrative than being a software engineer there?

bayesian_horse 7y ago
Certainly not in the companion animal business unless you own your job. And to own your job you need more experience than the university can give you and also lots more money. Many clinical jobs I am qualified to take are paid so badly that veterinarians qualify for social rent assistance. Bovine, porcine and poultry pay better, but I'm not that interested in those fields.
- thaumasiotes 7y ago
  What does it mean to "own your job"?
  - ddebernardy 7y ago
    It means to be your own boss rather than be hired by an existing veterinary outfit.
    - thaumasiotes 7y ago
      There are no experience requirements for being your own boss.
  - dyukqu 7y ago
    It means that you are the founder & investor of your own job/startup/company.
  - bayesian_horse 7y ago
    It means starting/buying a veterinary practice or owning a stake in a clinic (mostly just bigger practices). It's not really an investment because the value of the stake/practice tanks as soon as you stop working and at best you can sell "your job" to someone else. And yes, I am legally qualified to start a practice and render virtually any treatment services I want. But I would suck. That's why you need more experience in places where the buck can stop with someone else.
    - thaumasiotes 7y ago
      The path my mother followed (as a doctor for humans) was to approach an existing physician about joining that physician's practice. She joined, the patients got used to her, and she bought out the practice when the other doctor retired a couple years later. This was the first thing she did after leaving medical school, but obviously there were a couple years in there of being the junior physician in the practice, which gives some time to gain experience. She gives me to understand that changes in the legal landscape have resulted in US doctors mostly abandoning the idea of having their own practice in favor of being hospital employees.
      - bayesian_horse 7y ago
        Which in the veterinary field means very low paying entry level jobs.
        thaumasiotes 7y ago
        Perhaps, but I see no reason to believe that recent legal changes pushing American physicians into abandoning their independent practices would apply to veterinarians in Germany...?

Certainly not in the companion animal business unless you own your job. And to own your job you need more experience than the university can give you and also lots more money. Many clinical jobs I am qualified to take are paid so badly that veterinarians qualify for social rent assistance. Bovine, porcine and poultry pay better, but I'm not that interested in those fields.

thaumasiotes 7y ago
What does it mean to "own your job"?
- ddebernardy 7y ago
  It means to be your own boss rather than be hired by an existing veterinary outfit.
  - thaumasiotes 7y ago
    There are no experience requirements for being your own boss.
- dyukqu 7y ago
  It means that you are the founder & investor of your own job/startup/company.
- bayesian_horse 7y ago
  It means starting/buying a veterinary practice or owning a stake in a clinic (mostly just bigger practices). It's not really an investment because the value of the stake/practice tanks as soon as you stop working and at best you can sell "your job" to someone else. And yes, I am legally qualified to start a practice and render virtually any treatment services I want. But I would suck. That's why you need more experience in places where the buck can stop with someone else.
  - thaumasiotes 7y ago
    The path my mother followed (as a doctor for humans) was to approach an existing physician about joining that physician's practice. She joined, the patients got used to her, and she bought out the practice when the other doctor retired a couple years later. This was the first thing she did after leaving medical school, but obviously there were a couple years in there of being the junior physician in the practice, which gives some time to gain experience. She gives me to understand that changes in the legal landscape have resulted in US doctors mostly abandoning the idea of having their own practice in favor of being hospital employees.
    - bayesian_horse 7y ago
      Which in the veterinary field means very low paying entry level jobs.
      - thaumasiotes 7y ago
        Perhaps, but I see no reason to believe that recent legal changes pushing American physicians into abandoning their independent practices would apply to veterinarians in Germany...?