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Related: Does anybody have a job or job ideas for me? I finished my veterinary degree in Germany (very late, but I finished) and I am a proficient coder, mostly
by bayesian_horse 7y ago
Related: Does anybody have a job or job ideas for me? I finished my veterinary degree in Germany (very late, but I finished) and I am a proficient coder, mostly web development in Django, but I also have a passion for Data Science (in Python and R) and Machine Learning. The veterinary degree here means I have a broad understanding of biology, medicine and food safety. I also did a bit of bioinformatics.
People often say that's a killer combination, but actually I have problems finding concrete positions I would fit in. I fear I have to somehow create that position myself, which is also not that easy. Ideas or hints would be appreciated!
- gregorygoc 7y agoIsn’t being a vet in Germany more lucrative than being a software engineer there?
- bayesian_horse 7y agoCertainly not in the companion animal business unless you own your job. And to own your job you need more experience than the university can give you and also lots more money. Many clinical jobs I am qualified to take are paid so badly that veterinarians qualify for social rent assistance. Bovine, porcine and poultry pay better, but I'm not that interested in those fields.
- thaumasiotes 7y agoWhat does it mean to "own your job"?
- ddebernardy 7y agoIt means to be your own boss rather than be hired by an existing veterinary outfit.
- thaumasiotes 7y agoThere are no experience requirements for being your own boss.
- dyukqu 7y agoIt means that you are the founder & investor of your own job/startup/company.
- bayesian_horse 7y agoIt means starting/buying a veterinary practice or owning a stake in a clinic (mostly just bigger practices). It's not really an investment because the value of the stake/practice tanks as soon as you stop working and at best you can sell "your job" to someone else. And yes, I am legally qualified to start a practice and render virtually any treatment services I want. But I would suck. That's why you need more experience in places where the buck can stop with someone else.
- thaumasiotes 7y agoThe path my mother followed (as a doctor for humans) was to approach an existing physician about joining that physician's practice. She joined, the patients got used to her, and she bought out the practice when the other doctor retired a couple years later. This was the first thing she did after leaving medical school, but obviously there were a couple years in there of being the junior physician in the practice, which gives some time to gain experience. She gives me to understand that changes in the legal landscape have resulted in US doctors mostly abandoning the idea of having their own practice in favor of being hospital employees.
- bayesian_horse 7y agoWhich in the veterinary field means very low paying entry level jobs.
- thaumasiotes 7y agoPerhaps, but I see no reason to believe that recent legal changes pushing American physicians into abandoning their independent practices would apply to veterinarians in Germany...?
- pintxo 7y agoFellow German here, mail me at sebastian@progether.com if what we do makes sense to you.
- Arqu 7y agoI would suggest you go for it! A very good collegue of mine. He also finished vet school, went on to get a masters degree in bioinformatics and shaped up his DS/ML skills on his own time. He started in a local data analytics company and then transitioned to a full software development company where together we have brought in and started DS & ML efforts. His colourful experience definitely broadened his view and is now what I would label a senior guy and has the perspective and understanding of the business side of things.
- andrelaszlo 7y agoIt sounds like you are looking for a job where you can use both the veterinarian and the coding skills but if you are just looking for a well-paying job I heard that there is a shortage of veterinarians in Sweden right now: https://www.atl.nu/lantbruk/brist-pa-veterinarer-ett-hot-mot-djurhalsan/ https://www.atl.nu/lantbruk/brist-pa-veterinarer-ett-hot-mot...
- StreamBright 7y agoYes, depending on your interest in data science and working for pharmaceuticals.
- mixmastamyk 7y agoThere are a lot of medical startups looking for tech folks with medical domain knowledge.
- bayesian_horse 7y agoFor example?
- mixmastamyk 7y agoGoogle for “medical startups in $my_area.”
- moveq_0_d0 7y agoWe are hiring at the moment, have a look here: https://www.redheads.de/joomla/index.php/?option=com_jobs&view=single&id=4 https://www.redheads.de/joomla/index.php/?option=com_jobs&vi...
- bayesian_horse 7y agoLooks interesting...
- moveq_0_d0 7y agoFeel free to send your CV anytime. Our HR staff are super approachable and nice to work with.
- jacquesm 7y agoPlease contact me if you want (see 'who is hiring' thread for more info).