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I tried out the last thread not expecting much to come from it and some surprisingly well-matched opportunities came my way. In fact, someone contacted me just

I tried out the last thread not expecting much to come from it and some surprisingly well-matched opportunities came my way. In fact, someone contacted me just yesterday from the same thread and that was over a month ago now! What seems to happen with hiring is good companies very quickly get overwhelmed by bad applicants. Consequently, they have to instate barriers to try filter out the hundreds of unqualified people who apply. Unfortunately, the same filters also affect the people you want to hire and make it less likely you'll be introduced to a good engineer. If you've already been in the industry a while you'll probably suffer from the same problem: A hell of a lot of low quality recruiter spam; Bad companies wasting your time with sub-minimum wage offers, and so on. Sometimes you just need 10 minutes to speak to a real person and you can both tell straight away if it's a good fit or not. Good luck to people looking for their next opportunity. There are some great companies out there. Edit: I find it amusing hacker news works so well for this compared to traditional career websites. It probably works so well precisely because it doesn't market itself as such, and on a dice roll the signal to noise ratio is far higher. Hopefully this doesn't change any time soon as having a high-quality service like this is very, very useful for people!

duxup 7y ago
>If you've already been in the industry a while you'll probably suffer from the same problem: A hell of a lot of low quality recruiter spam; Bad companies wasting your time with sub-minimum wage offers, and so on. Sometimes you just need 10 minutes to speak to a real person and you can both tell straight away if it's a good fit or not. As a noob I would just like to say...it isn't limited to experienced professionals. As soon as I landed my first job my email and linkedin caught fire. Non stop spam, bad matches, and etc. "I was looking at your resume..." No way you were looking at my resume and came up with this job... kinda stuff.
- jeena 7y ago
  That is why I deleted my linkedin profile years ago.
- ldoughty 7y ago
  We get TONS of people that apply to our jobs with shotgun strategy... Really annoying looking for an experienced Linux admin and we have to review a fresh college grad with no Linux or Mac experience and one year of java programming. HR policies require us to be fair to all applicants, so our panel had to spend 15 minutes recovering the application and highlighting why they do not meet 9 of the 10 required qualifications. This is mostly because it system makes it easy to apply to multiple listings, so people upload their information then click 2-3 times to apply to each job. So, compared to getting a whole lot of those, or "I can find someone for you" responses, I can see why people have more luck reaching out to a community of people with the rough skill set
  - linuxftw 7y ago
    > Really annoying looking for an experienced Linux admin and we have to review a fresh college grad with no Linux or Mac experience and one year of java programming. It's not your fault, but the industry has relatively few entry-level positions, especially for the bottom 75% of graduates.
    - ldoughty 7y ago
      I personally support 3 entry level Linux admins / clouds engineers under me (1 well paid intern, 2 full time) One was in college, one fresh grad 2-year degree, one with degree and 1 year experience. But I need someone who's actually better than me to help with weird issues that you simply don't get in school... Like adjusting the DNS resolver process.. or dining out why gnome won't start in a virtual infrastructure (which most people don't even know where to start looking in logs) So I'm very open to entry level people, but I need another experience person to help
      - geekbird 7y ago
        I've found that you seldom get any deep level Linux admin training in schools. They all teach fundamentals, the seven layer cake^W OSI model, how http works, stuff like that. If you're lucky, they cover /var/log/messages, a few basic commands, then dive deep into stack traces or something else programmer-centric. Then again, I'm mostly self taught and have 10+ years experience. BTW, debugging Docker just sucks. I'm looking for better tools for that.

duxup 7y ago

>If you've already been in the industry a while you'll probably suffer from the same problem: A hell of a lot of low quality recruiter spam; Bad companies wasting your time with sub-minimum wage offers, and so on. Sometimes you just need 10 minutes to speak to a real person and you can both tell straight away if it's a good fit or not. As a noob I would just like to say...it isn't limited to experienced professionals. As soon as I landed my first job my email and linkedin caught fire. Non stop spam, bad matches, and etc. "I was looking at your resume..." No way you were looking at my resume and came up with this job... kinda stuff.

jeena 7y ago
That is why I deleted my linkedin profile years ago.
ldoughty 7y ago
We get TONS of people that apply to our jobs with shotgun strategy... Really annoying looking for an experienced Linux admin and we have to review a fresh college grad with no Linux or Mac experience and one year of java programming. HR policies require us to be fair to all applicants, so our panel had to spend 15 minutes recovering the application and highlighting why they do not meet 9 of the 10 required qualifications. This is mostly because it system makes it easy to apply to multiple listings, so people upload their information then click 2-3 times to apply to each job. So, compared to getting a whole lot of those, or "I can find someone for you" responses, I can see why people have more luck reaching out to a community of people with the rough skill set
- linuxftw 7y ago
  > Really annoying looking for an experienced Linux admin and we have to review a fresh college grad with no Linux or Mac experience and one year of java programming. It's not your fault, but the industry has relatively few entry-level positions, especially for the bottom 75% of graduates.
  - ldoughty 7y ago
    I personally support 3 entry level Linux admins / clouds engineers under me (1 well paid intern, 2 full time) One was in college, one fresh grad 2-year degree, one with degree and 1 year experience. But I need someone who's actually better than me to help with weird issues that you simply don't get in school... Like adjusting the DNS resolver process.. or dining out why gnome won't start in a virtual infrastructure (which most people don't even know where to start looking in logs) So I'm very open to entry level people, but I need another experience person to help
    - geekbird 7y ago
      I've found that you seldom get any deep level Linux admin training in schools. They all teach fundamentals, the seven layer cake^W OSI model, how http works, stuff like that. If you're lucky, they cover /var/log/messages, a few basic commands, then dive deep into stack traces or something else programmer-centric. Then again, I'm mostly self taught and have 10+ years experience. BTW, debugging Docker just sucks. I'm looking for better tools for that.