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Great but CO2 levels are still rising. I could care less if the planet is covered with jungle from pole to pole if the heat makes it unlivable in large portions

Great but CO2 levels are still rising. I could care less if the planet is covered with jungle from pole to pole if the heat makes it unlivable in large portions of it.

briantakita 7y ago
It's actually a good thing that CO2 is rising. The climate is changing primarily due to the Sun. This is a big reason why we are seeing large amounts of hail in Guadalajara, Slovenia/Italy, & Africa this summer. Don't forget that this past winter was cold. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-45584-3 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-45584-3 NASA predicts that Solar Cycle 25 will be the least active in over 200 years, largely due to Dr. Valentina Zharkova's work. We are in a cooling period, which means we need all the help we can get growing food. This is why higher CO2 is great for humans. https://www.nasa.gov/feature/ames/solar-activity-forecast-for-next-decade-favorable-for-exploration https://www.nasa.gov/feature/ames/solar-activity-forecast-fo... Enjoy the Summer Snow & skiing in Colorado! https://gazette.com/multimedia/photos-summer-snow-brings-riders-to-arapahoe-basin/collection_f1345898-96a8-11e9-8385-d7a7078079b1.html https://gazette.com/multimedia/photos-summer-snow-brings-rid...
- wongarsu 7y ago
  > It's actually a good thing that CO2 is rising Not really good for us or for a stable climate, but probably good for plants. Plants love CO2 > We are in a cooling period, which means we need all the help we can get growing food. We might have some cold winters, but global average temperatures are going up, a lot. Globally we are in no danger of not being able to grow food due to cold temperatures (though local effects from disrupting ocean currents are still very possible ofc).
- p1necone 7y ago
  I thought the denialists had moved on from "it's not warming" to "it's not caused by humans" once the evidence for "it is infact warming" became undeniable even to the layman. Why do you seem to expect people to take you seriously? Edit: I dug through their comment history - seems that they think that there's a global conspiracy to fudge collected climate data. Would be nice if they mentioned that in their comments rather than just pretending that everyone must agree with them. To the person I'm responding to: You're doing the classic thing that everyone with extremist opinions seems to do - you're making the thing that everyone else is likely to disagree with your unspoken axiom (in your case it's that people are faking climate data), and then in the bit you actually type out for everyone to see you're following on fairly logically from that unspoken axiom. This results in you looking vaguely reasonable to the layperson that isn't paying much attention, and utterly baffling to anyone who has half a clue and reads your words carefully. If you genuinely believe what you're saying you need to state the aforementioned unspoken axiom clearly, and provide evidence for it before you can hope to engage in honest discussion with anyone.
- dang 7y ago
  Please don't take HN threads into classic flamewars. Nothing good is going to come of it, only repetition. Repetition is the enemy of curiosity. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Great but CO2 levels are still rising. I could care less if the planet is covered with jungle from pole to pole if the heat makes it unlivable in large portions of it.

briantakita 7y ago

It's actually a good thing that CO2 is rising. The climate is changing primarily due to the Sun. This is a big reason why we are seeing large amounts of hail in Guadalajara, Slovenia/Italy, & Africa this summer. Don't forget that this past winter was cold. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-45584-3 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-45584-3 NASA predicts that Solar Cycle 25 will be the least active in over 200 years, largely due to Dr. Valentina Zharkova's work. We are in a cooling period, which means we need all the help we can get growing food. This is why higher CO2 is great for humans. https://www.nasa.gov/feature/ames/solar-activity-forecast-for-next-decade-favorable-for-exploration https://www.nasa.gov/feature/ames/solar-activity-forecast-fo... Enjoy the Summer Snow & skiing in Colorado! https://gazette.com/multimedia/photos-summer-snow-brings-riders-to-arapahoe-basin/collection_f1345898-96a8-11e9-8385-d7a7078079b1.html https://gazette.com/multimedia/photos-summer-snow-brings-rid...

wongarsu 7y ago
> It's actually a good thing that CO2 is rising Not really good for us or for a stable climate, but probably good for plants. Plants love CO2 > We are in a cooling period, which means we need all the help we can get growing food. We might have some cold winters, but global average temperatures are going up, a lot. Globally we are in no danger of not being able to grow food due to cold temperatures (though local effects from disrupting ocean currents are still very possible ofc).
p1necone 7y ago
I thought the denialists had moved on from "it's not warming" to "it's not caused by humans" once the evidence for "it is infact warming" became undeniable even to the layman. Why do you seem to expect people to take you seriously? Edit: I dug through their comment history - seems that they think that there's a global conspiracy to fudge collected climate data. Would be nice if they mentioned that in their comments rather than just pretending that everyone must agree with them. To the person I'm responding to: You're doing the classic thing that everyone with extremist opinions seems to do - you're making the thing that everyone else is likely to disagree with your unspoken axiom (in your case it's that people are faking climate data), and then in the bit you actually type out for everyone to see you're following on fairly logically from that unspoken axiom. This results in you looking vaguely reasonable to the layperson that isn't paying much attention, and utterly baffling to anyone who has half a clue and reads your words carefully. If you genuinely believe what you're saying you need to state the aforementioned unspoken axiom clearly, and provide evidence for it before you can hope to engage in honest discussion with anyone.
dang 7y ago
Please don't take HN threads into classic flamewars. Nothing good is going to come of it, only repetition. Repetition is the enemy of curiosity. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html