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Not a European, but I regularly live in 39°C, 102°F with very high humidity. Get a portable, floor standing unit in the 1500 watt range so you plug it in anywhe

by jws 7y ago

Not a European, but I regularly live in 39°C, 102°F with very high humidity. Get a portable, floor standing unit in the 1500 watt range so you plug it in anywhere. It will have a fist sized duct to exhaust hot air, stick that out a window. Now reduce your living space to something it can cool. Close off rooms. Worst case, use sheets to erect a tent around your bed and just make it comfortable. Something like 400EU should do it. Don’t sweat the power use, it will use no more than 5EU/day, but you won’t use it many days. I’m sorry I can’t be more specific about specifications, my country uses made up units for cooling and you wouldn’t understand. Edit: about condensate… half of the comfort comes from getting water out of the air so your mammal body works. Some units will require a gravity drain or for you to empty a bucket a couple times a day. Others will have a tricky design to move the water into the hot exhaust duct and evaporate it. I like these.

microcolonel 7y ago
> Get a portable, floor standing unit in the 1500 watt range so you plug it in anywhere. It will have a fist sized duct to exhaust hot air, stick that out a window. Now reduce your living space to something it can cool. Try to get the two-duct ones, they are dramatically more efficient. This is reflected in the newer U.S. DoE capacity ratings, which take into account the various ways that single-duct portable air conditioners are not so great. > Others will have a tricky design to move the water into the hot exhaust duct and evaporate it. I like these. That seems really convenient, can anyone comment on the effect that has on efficiency? It seems like if the hot side is hot enough, re-evaporating the condensate on the hot side should improve efficiency.
- makomk 7y ago
  Are the two-duct portable air conditioners even available on the European market? They certainly don't appear to be a thing here in the UK as far as I can tell.
  - microcolonel 7y ago
    The omission is shocking, I can't seem to find any on UK or German Amazon. Though on amazon.de I see at least one alternative to the Zweikanal-Klimaanlage or whatever you'd call it; a small split system with two condensers for just four-hundred euro. Though it seems like it'd likely warrant professional installation, and therefore €€€. https://amazon.de/dp/B06XTQKLXM/ https://amazon.de/dp/B06XTQKLXM/ Perhaps it is a Russian conspiracy to keep you all burning that sweet sweet gazprom oil (except the UK, congratulations!). ;- )
    - makomk 7y ago
      There's plenty of split units in the UK too, but those require professional installation and quite possibly also planning permission with a full professional noise assessment. No dual-hose portables though. I'm not sure why; we don't seem to have banned them like Australia accidentally managed to do (they imposed efficiency requirements on dual-hose units that portable aircon couldn't meet whilst exempting the single-hose variety).
      - microcolonel 7y ago
        > they imposed efficiency requirements on dual-hose units that portable aircon couldn't meet whilst exempting the single-hose variety Unintended consequences hall of fame. Have they reversed that, or is it just sorta sitting there, like a festering wound?

by jws 7y ago

microcolonel 7y ago

> Get a portable, floor standing unit in the 1500 watt range so you plug it in anywhere. It will have a fist sized duct to exhaust hot air, stick that out a window. Now reduce your living space to something it can cool. Try to get the two-duct ones, they are dramatically more efficient. This is reflected in the newer U.S. DoE capacity ratings, which take into account the various ways that single-duct portable air conditioners are not so great. > Others will have a tricky design to move the water into the hot exhaust duct and evaporate it. I like these. That seems really convenient, can anyone comment on the effect that has on efficiency? It seems like if the hot side is hot enough, re-evaporating the condensate on the hot side should improve efficiency.

makomk 7y ago
Are the two-duct portable air conditioners even available on the European market? They certainly don't appear to be a thing here in the UK as far as I can tell.
- microcolonel 7y ago
  The omission is shocking, I can't seem to find any on UK or German Amazon. Though on amazon.de I see at least one alternative to the Zweikanal-Klimaanlage or whatever you'd call it; a small split system with two condensers for just four-hundred euro. Though it seems like it'd likely warrant professional installation, and therefore €€€. https://amazon.de/dp/B06XTQKLXM/ https://amazon.de/dp/B06XTQKLXM/ Perhaps it is a Russian conspiracy to keep you all burning that sweet sweet gazprom oil (except the UK, congratulations!). ;- )
  - makomk 7y ago
    There's plenty of split units in the UK too, but those require professional installation and quite possibly also planning permission with a full professional noise assessment. No dual-hose portables though. I'm not sure why; we don't seem to have banned them like Australia accidentally managed to do (they imposed efficiency requirements on dual-hose units that portable aircon couldn't meet whilst exempting the single-hose variety).
    - microcolonel 7y ago
      > they imposed efficiency requirements on dual-hose units that portable aircon couldn't meet whilst exempting the single-hose variety Unintended consequences hall of fame. Have they reversed that, or is it just sorta sitting there, like a festering wound?