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This made me laugh, WTF does "purpose of software development" actually mean? That phrase is itself a misunderstanding waiting to happen. :-) Yeah... Ok, I pr

by ezy 16y ago

This made me laugh, WTF does "purpose of software development" actually mean? That phrase is itself a misunderstanding waiting to happen. :-) Yeah... Ok, I probably deserved a bit of a snarky reply -- I missed the 32-bit requirement for silverlight in the release notes (apparently their sandboxing for 64bit is broken). Just for that oversight, I'll take my lumps. I do think, however, that you're thinking in a binary way about this. It's possible to add new features and fix bugs at the same time, ya know. It's possible to prioritize stuff even in a beta... you don't just pile on the shiny new because you slapped a "beta" sticker on it. It's a beta release, not an alpha, and the eighth beta release. Right on the durn frontpage is says it should be stable enough for normal use in most cases. I would classify youtube as one of those cases. As soon as the 7th release came out, it was broken in an obvious way vis a vis youtube video on some platforms. They had months to fix it. Mozilla obviously decided that WebGL bling was more important... ...and that's fine, they can do what they want and yes, it's a beta release and webgl is cool, but I still think their priorities are screwed up.

code_duck 16y ago
Okay, so it sounds like you misunderstand the process of software development. You can't completely rewrite various subsystems for performance and fix bugs at the same time. There is more going on than just 'adding new features'. New software is bound to be unstable while it is in development. If you have a problem with this, do not download beta versions. Personally, I haven't had any issues at all with stability or compatibility on Beta 6 or 7 (on Linux).
- ezy 16y ago
  (Since I don't particularly care about my karma at the moment, I guess I'll continue beating this dead horse :-)) And here's my snarky rejoinder: Hey look! There are bug fixes and new features in the latest beta. How did they do that? Perhaps they misunderstand the software development process! What you have described is some ideal model of the development process based on something you think should happen. It doesn't exist, and it doesn't happen that way. No one is reading what I wrote: their priority is messed up (in my opinion). Software development is very much about priorities. You can decide that youtube functionality might be important for mac users for them to even continue testing the beta (e.g. no they(I) aren't(am not) going to keep launching another browser for every you tube video when they could just use safari). Or you can decide WebGL and audio (audio? really?) bling which a precious few will be using even in a year, is somehow more important.
  - eitally 16y ago
    I think their priority right now is to not fall so far behind Chrome that catching up becomes a serious challenge.
  - chc 16y ago
    Honestly, I think your priorities are messed up — or at least inconsistent with your actions. You seem to just want a stable browser for watching YouTube without regard for cutting-edge technology, but for some reason are using a piece of beta software that is currently focused on other things. As far as the final product is concerned, I'd bet that YouTube does have higher priority than WebGL. But that isn't the current focus of development.
  - Garbage 16y ago
    Excuse me, are you using IE6 ?
  - code_duck 16y ago
    > Hey look! There are bug fixes and new features in the latest beta. How did they do that? Perhaps they misunderstand the software development process! > What you have described is some ideal model of the development process based on something you think should happen. It doesn't exist, and it doesn't happen that way. Do you actually do any programming yourself? I'm really not sure what you're talking about.

by ezy 16y ago

code_duck 16y ago

Okay, so it sounds like you misunderstand the process of software development. You can't completely rewrite various subsystems for performance and fix bugs at the same time. There is more going on than just 'adding new features'. New software is bound to be unstable while it is in development. If you have a problem with this, do not download beta versions. Personally, I haven't had any issues at all with stability or compatibility on Beta 6 or 7 (on Linux).

ezy 16y ago
(Since I don't particularly care about my karma at the moment, I guess I'll continue beating this dead horse :-)) And here's my snarky rejoinder: Hey look! There are bug fixes and new features in the latest beta. How did they do that? Perhaps they misunderstand the software development process! What you have described is some ideal model of the development process based on something you think should happen. It doesn't exist, and it doesn't happen that way. No one is reading what I wrote: their priority is messed up (in my opinion). Software development is very much about priorities. You can decide that youtube functionality might be important for mac users for them to even continue testing the beta (e.g. no they(I) aren't(am not) going to keep launching another browser for every you tube video when they could just use safari). Or you can decide WebGL and audio (audio? really?) bling which a precious few will be using even in a year, is somehow more important.
- eitally 16y ago
  I think their priority right now is to not fall so far behind Chrome that catching up becomes a serious challenge.
- chc 16y ago
  Honestly, I think your priorities are messed up — or at least inconsistent with your actions. You seem to just want a stable browser for watching YouTube without regard for cutting-edge technology, but for some reason are using a piece of beta software that is currently focused on other things. As far as the final product is concerned, I'd bet that YouTube does have higher priority than WebGL. But that isn't the current focus of development.
- Garbage 16y ago
  Excuse me, are you using IE6 ?
- code_duck 16y ago
  > Hey look! There are bug fixes and new features in the latest beta. How did they do that? Perhaps they misunderstand the software development process! > What you have described is some ideal model of the development process based on something you think should happen. It doesn't exist, and it doesn't happen that way. Do you actually do any programming yourself? I'm really not sure what you're talking about.