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> missing magSafe You can pry from my dead hands my one cable from the monitor to the laptop and ability to charge the laptop from both sides. Not to mention t

> missing magSafe You can pry from my dead hands my one cable from the monitor to the laptop and ability to charge the laptop from both sides. Not to mention that I can use chargers from anyone, not just from Apple, I can buy non-Apple charging cables, and with my Mac charger I can charge growing numbers of gadgets (so far iPad and Nintendo Switch). Yeah, MagSafe had a nice, satisfying "click" when engages, but I find USB-C charging much more convenient.

dlp211 7y ago
What if I told you this isn't an either or. You can have both usb-c and magsafe charging in the same laptop.
- lukewrites 7y ago
  > Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
- EL_Loco 7y ago
  If my laptop already had usb-c and could be charged through it, why would I want an extra, different format charging port? Why not add a micro-usb one, for three different charging ports?
  - jakereps 7y ago
    I read their message as saying USB-C with MagSafe technology to prevent the cord from pulling the machine off your desk if tripped over, and not two separate ports. Basically as it exists but a modification to the cable or connector to have magnetic breakaways or something?
    - EL_Loco 7y ago
      Could be, yeah, but I can't see how to implement that with USB's friction model of retention.
  - darkpuma 7y ago
    Presumably people think the magsafe connection is better. I wonder about that though. I have a magsafe mac and my cable wears out after a year or two. Do the USB-C charging cables have the same problem?
    - w0mbat 7y ago
      Magsafe 2 seems better than either version of Magsafe 1 (there was straight and then right-angled). I broke a ton of those Magsafe 1 chargers over the years, have yet to break a Magsafe 2 charger.
- apetrovic 7y ago
  Probably, but why? When every laptop had it's own proprietary charging cable, MagSafe was the best. But I'll take standard charging cable over proprietary every time. I don't feel any need for MagSafe and I don't want MagSafe socket on my laptop (because I think that would made already slow USB-C adoption slower)
  - soapdog 7y ago
    My laptop, a Surface Go, can be charged either with USB C or with the little flimsy microsoft magnetic connector. I like having both options. At home, my surface dock uses that connection so I didn't need to buy new hardware when I upgraded to the Surface Go. When travelling, I carry its own proprietary charger which charges faster than USBC. When going to coffee shops or small co-working sessions, I carry either a battery pack with USB C PD or a USB C charger that is smaller than its own proprietary one and also charges my phone. I enjoy having options and using the best for the occasion.
  - hypertexthero 7y ago
    Because with MagSafe when someone trips on the power cord your laptop doesn’t crash to the ground.
    - apetrovic 7y ago
      Man, Mac users are the clumsiest beings on the World. Macs are what? Below 7% market share? And somehow 7%, based on constant whining, trips over their power cords much more than the silent 93% of the population. You have a computer with four sockets on both sides, you can plug into each of these holes a standard (non-Apple) cable, on the other side of the cable can be a standard USB-C (non-Apple) charger or a battery pack that can charge your laptop together with your phone and your gadgets. And yet, that's much less important than the glorified party trick.
      - acdha 7y ago
        Does this really need to be trolled into a Mac-PC flamewar? MagSafe was popular (and widely recognized as a good feature even by PC users) because people use laptops in crowded places, have pets and kids, etc. Nobody is saying that USB-C doesn't have strengths but this was a feature which many people felt valuable for valid reasons. It's also annoying to lose since it'd be an easy change to fix by putting the safety release on the charger so you'd have the same protection in the most common configuration.
- lancewiggs 7y ago
  Indeed - there are USB-C charger cables with this functionality. I got one and quickly ignored it as the standard cables are so much easier.
cheesymuffin 7y ago
Magsafe gets sand and other crap stuck at worst, and falls out way too easily at best. I sleep on my side and I like to doze off watching Netflix while eating Flamin' Hot Cheetos and mayonnaise -- MagSafe is terrible for this. And what if I want to switch sides during the aforementioned activities? I'm most comfortable on my right, but that shoulder is weak and dislocates easily. Will Apple pay for my medical bills when the inevitable happens? I will forever be a firm supporter of USB-C.
- treve 7y ago
  This was depressing to read.
  - stronglikedan 7y ago
    Someone doing what they enjoy, but wanting to be able to do it more effectively, is depressing?
    - treve 7y ago
      It's the unhealthy lifestyle, not brushing teeth before bed, dislocating shoulders and not having healthcare that caused my comment.
      - HeyLaughingBoy 7y ago
        Yeah, but cheesy muffins are the best! Especially made with buttermilk.
  - cheez 7y ago
    Pretty sure this was sarcastic
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- matthoiland 7y ago
oflannabhra 7y ago
on top of that, there is a high quality data cable that comes with your computer
- dantle 7y ago
  The charging cable that ships with the MacBook is only capable of USB2.0 speed data transfers.[0] You'll want a different cable for high speed data. [0] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208368 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208368
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DonHopkins 7y ago
Did you ever notice how they never used magnets in laptops before people stopped using floppy disks?

dlp211 7y ago

What if I told you this isn't an either or. You can have both usb-c and magsafe charging in the same laptop.

lukewrites 7y ago
> Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
EL_Loco 7y ago
If my laptop already had usb-c and could be charged through it, why would I want an extra, different format charging port? Why not add a micro-usb one, for three different charging ports?
- jakereps 7y ago
  I read their message as saying USB-C with MagSafe technology to prevent the cord from pulling the machine off your desk if tripped over, and not two separate ports. Basically as it exists but a modification to the cable or connector to have magnetic breakaways or something?
  - EL_Loco 7y ago
    Could be, yeah, but I can't see how to implement that with USB's friction model of retention.
- darkpuma 7y ago
  Presumably people think the magsafe connection is better. I wonder about that though. I have a magsafe mac and my cable wears out after a year or two. Do the USB-C charging cables have the same problem?
  - w0mbat 7y ago
    Magsafe 2 seems better than either version of Magsafe 1 (there was straight and then right-angled). I broke a ton of those Magsafe 1 chargers over the years, have yet to break a Magsafe 2 charger.
apetrovic 7y ago
Probably, but why? When every laptop had it's own proprietary charging cable, MagSafe was the best. But I'll take standard charging cable over proprietary every time. I don't feel any need for MagSafe and I don't want MagSafe socket on my laptop (because I think that would made already slow USB-C adoption slower)
- soapdog 7y ago
  My laptop, a Surface Go, can be charged either with USB C or with the little flimsy microsoft magnetic connector. I like having both options. At home, my surface dock uses that connection so I didn't need to buy new hardware when I upgraded to the Surface Go. When travelling, I carry its own proprietary charger which charges faster than USBC. When going to coffee shops or small co-working sessions, I carry either a battery pack with USB C PD or a USB C charger that is smaller than its own proprietary one and also charges my phone. I enjoy having options and using the best for the occasion.
- hypertexthero 7y ago
  Because with MagSafe when someone trips on the power cord your laptop doesn’t crash to the ground.
  - apetrovic 7y ago
    Man, Mac users are the clumsiest beings on the World. Macs are what? Below 7% market share? And somehow 7%, based on constant whining, trips over their power cords much more than the silent 93% of the population. You have a computer with four sockets on both sides, you can plug into each of these holes a standard (non-Apple) cable, on the other side of the cable can be a standard USB-C (non-Apple) charger or a battery pack that can charge your laptop together with your phone and your gadgets. And yet, that's much less important than the glorified party trick.
    - acdha 7y ago
      Does this really need to be trolled into a Mac-PC flamewar? MagSafe was popular (and widely recognized as a good feature even by PC users) because people use laptops in crowded places, have pets and kids, etc. Nobody is saying that USB-C doesn't have strengths but this was a feature which many people felt valuable for valid reasons. It's also annoying to lose since it'd be an easy change to fix by putting the safety release on the charger so you'd have the same protection in the most common configuration.
lancewiggs 7y ago
Indeed - there are USB-C charger cables with this functionality. I got one and quickly ignored it as the standard cables are so much easier.

cheesymuffin 7y ago

Magsafe gets sand and other crap stuck at worst, and falls out way too easily at best. I sleep on my side and I like to doze off watching Netflix while eating Flamin' Hot Cheetos and mayonnaise -- MagSafe is terrible for this. And what if I want to switch sides during the aforementioned activities? I'm most comfortable on my right, but that shoulder is weak and dislocates easily. Will Apple pay for my medical bills when the inevitable happens? I will forever be a firm supporter of USB-C.

treve 7y ago
This was depressing to read.
- stronglikedan 7y ago
  Someone doing what they enjoy, but wanting to be able to do it more effectively, is depressing?
  - treve 7y ago
    It's the unhealthy lifestyle, not brushing teeth before bed, dislocating shoulders and not having healthcare that caused my comment.
    - HeyLaughingBoy 7y ago
      Yeah, but cheesy muffins are the best! Especially made with buttermilk.
- cheez 7y ago
  Pretty sure this was sarcastic
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matthoiland 7y ago

oflannabhra 7y ago

on top of that, there is a high quality data cable that comes with your computer

dantle 7y ago
The charging cable that ships with the MacBook is only capable of USB2.0 speed data transfers.[0] You'll want a different cable for high speed data. [0] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208368 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208368

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DonHopkins 7y ago

Did you ever notice how they never used magnets in laptops before people stopped using floppy disks?