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They also have to be blamed for making products so difficult to repair. If they are truly concerned with environment issues, they should compromise thinness a

by nextos 7y ago

They also have to be blamed for making products so difficult to repair. If they are truly concerned with environment issues, they should compromise thinness a tiny bit for better repair-ability. One of my last MacBooks, the first aluminium unibody one, had a beautiful latch that gave access to the battery and disk without any tools. The rest of the machine was easy to get access to via 3 screws. Everything was neatly arranged. Whereas these days, it's a glued mess.

Wowfunhappy 7y ago
Very real environmental issues aside, I'd question how many consumers ever actually repair their laptops. If it's not many, then you're making everyone's computer thicker to benefit a few. The environmental angle, then, just comes down to whether Apple can recycle parts in as eco-friendly a way as they claim. I'm personally willing to give up repairability for a thin laptop. I'm far less willing to give up actual usability—I want a good keyboard, and I want compatibility with the most common types of thumb drives in active use today.
- noonespecial 7y ago
  >Very real environmental issues aside, I'd question how many consumers ever actually repair their laptops. Actual consumers? Very few. But a repairable machine retains much greater tradein/resale value reducing the chances it heads straight for the landfill. Witness the mighty 2012—2015 MacBook Pro and the resale value it commands to this day.
- darkpuma 7y ago
  At the least it used to be very common for consumers to replace their own battery, an option that now has an unreasonable process for most consumers.
- nextos 7y ago
  It's quite typical to replace batteries. And this machine solved that problem really well. Or it made it trivial to run on A/C, without battery. Furthermore, having easy access to components means the effective lifetime of hardware is much longer. You can repair things when it is no longer economical to do so at an Apple Store. I wish some laws were passed forcing manufacturers to display a repairability score, similar to the one that already exists for energy usage.
  - na85 7y ago
    >Furthermore, having easy access to components means the effective lifetime of hardware is much longer. You can repair things when it is no longer economical to do so at an Apple Store. And now you know why Apple dropped those features.

by nextos 7y ago

Wowfunhappy 7y ago

Very real environmental issues aside, I'd question how many consumers ever actually repair their laptops. If it's not many, then you're making everyone's computer thicker to benefit a few. The environmental angle, then, just comes down to whether Apple can recycle parts in as eco-friendly a way as they claim. I'm personally willing to give up repairability for a thin laptop. I'm far less willing to give up actual usability—I want a good keyboard, and I want compatibility with the most common types of thumb drives in active use today.

noonespecial 7y ago
>Very real environmental issues aside, I'd question how many consumers ever actually repair their laptops. Actual consumers? Very few. But a repairable machine retains much greater tradein/resale value reducing the chances it heads straight for the landfill. Witness the mighty 2012—2015 MacBook Pro and the resale value it commands to this day.
darkpuma 7y ago
At the least it used to be very common for consumers to replace their own battery, an option that now has an unreasonable process for most consumers.
nextos 7y ago
It's quite typical to replace batteries. And this machine solved that problem really well. Or it made it trivial to run on A/C, without battery. Furthermore, having easy access to components means the effective lifetime of hardware is much longer. You can repair things when it is no longer economical to do so at an Apple Store. I wish some laws were passed forcing manufacturers to display a repairability score, similar to the one that already exists for energy usage.
- na85 7y ago
  >Furthermore, having easy access to components means the effective lifetime of hardware is much longer. You can repair things when it is no longer economical to do so at an Apple Store. And now you know why Apple dropped those features.