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"He only hits you because you made him do it by not listening.", "Well, you were dressed slutty so its your own fault." Your argument is morally reprehensible.

slfnflctd 7y ago
If corporations were actually people, they would almost all be psychopaths and most people here know that. In a lot of ways this situation has been developed and maintained by design. Comparing them to individual behavior is simply not relevant at this stage of discourse. Holding companies to the same standards we hold human beings to might not be a bad idea in some hypothetical future society, but we are absolutely nowhere near there right now and there are a whole lot of more important battles to fight before we can even think about starting to have that conversation.
hbosch 7y ago
You took this to an extreme end with those phrases, none of which were mentioned by the OP. You’re trying to draw a parallel but the violent wording is designed to incite and anger. Not a good tactic for serious discussion. The fact is the tax laws exist and Amazon doesn’t break them. There are a lot of loopholes and financial maneuvering to get away from some taxes, and Amazon isn’t the only culprit here — but quite possibly is the biggest — and getting out of paying taxes is something companies and millions of Americans try to do every April. The number one way to fix this is to vote for representatives and politicians who believe in sane, regular tax plans and who are naturally suspicious of large tech companies like Amazon (and Google, Microsoft, Apple, Netflix, Facebook, etc.) and it’s important for customers to vote economically, “with their wallets”, if they don’t like a companies business practices. In general though, I believe every publicly traded company should be forced by the government to make their tax returns public and accessible. In fact, I actually believe every tax return ever filed by anyone should be public... but that’s an ideal.
dang 7y ago
"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

slfnflctd 7y ago

If corporations were actually people, they would almost all be psychopaths and most people here know that. In a lot of ways this situation has been developed and maintained by design. Comparing them to individual behavior is simply not relevant at this stage of discourse. Holding companies to the same standards we hold human beings to might not be a bad idea in some hypothetical future society, but we are absolutely nowhere near there right now and there are a whole lot of more important battles to fight before we can even think about starting to have that conversation.

hbosch 7y ago

You took this to an extreme end with those phrases, none of which were mentioned by the OP. You’re trying to draw a parallel but the violent wording is designed to incite and anger. Not a good tactic for serious discussion. The fact is the tax laws exist and Amazon doesn’t break them. There are a lot of loopholes and financial maneuvering to get away from some taxes, and Amazon isn’t the only culprit here — but quite possibly is the biggest — and getting out of paying taxes is something companies and millions of Americans try to do every April. The number one way to fix this is to vote for representatives and politicians who believe in sane, regular tax plans and who are naturally suspicious of large tech companies like Amazon (and Google, Microsoft, Apple, Netflix, Facebook, etc.) and it’s important for customers to vote economically, “with their wallets”, if they don’t like a companies business practices. In general though, I believe every publicly traded company should be forced by the government to make their tax returns public and accessible. In fact, I actually believe every tax return ever filed by anyone should be public... but that’s an ideal.

dang 7y ago

"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html