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4) If I'm the daughter of an extremely conservative family but I'm working at a strip club, even if I'm "not proud" of what I do that give no good cause to expo

4) If I'm the daughter of an extremely conservative family but I'm working at a strip club, even if I'm "not proud" of what I do that give no good cause to expose it to the world. Why would "strip club" be exposed? Only the amount you make should be. Your arguments all seem rather selfish. I realise the proposal might be extremely uncomfortable for some, but consider the overall benefits.

ben509 7y ago
> Why would "strip club" be exposed? Because the EIN is listed on the W-2, which is filed as part of the return. And if you're going to reply that you meant some abbreviated form of the tax return, then: The "what have you got to hide" class of arguments you're using to insist we expose an abbreviated version would also apply to expanding the abbreviated version to full disclosure. And you might be reasonable enough to stop, but that doesn't mean others will be. People have strong motives to want to dig into political opponents or people they don't like, and we know from history the "what have you got to hide" question and friends are routinely used in trying to eviscerate 4A and 5A rights.
- jacknews 7y ago
  OK, I see that point, I think only the gross amount of your income/taxes should be public, not any individual deductions etc. But my argument is not so much "what have you got to hide", but more "we're all in this together".
close04 7y ago
I see a case to opening up your tax returns if you want to touch/receive public (state) money under any shape or form. I mean if you're expecting everyone to contribute to your well-being then be prepared to offer something in return(s).
notahacker 7y ago
Taxable incomes which appear remarkably high for a young, attractive person who works an "evening shift" alongside their study course might be something of a giveaway (And yes, people jumping to entirely the wrong conclusion is another potential issue...)

ben509 7y ago

> Why would "strip club" be exposed? Because the EIN is listed on the W-2, which is filed as part of the return. And if you're going to reply that you meant some abbreviated form of the tax return, then: The "what have you got to hide" class of arguments you're using to insist we expose an abbreviated version would also apply to expanding the abbreviated version to full disclosure. And you might be reasonable enough to stop, but that doesn't mean others will be. People have strong motives to want to dig into political opponents or people they don't like, and we know from history the "what have you got to hide" question and friends are routinely used in trying to eviscerate 4A and 5A rights.

jacknews 7y ago
OK, I see that point, I think only the gross amount of your income/taxes should be public, not any individual deductions etc. But my argument is not so much "what have you got to hide", but more "we're all in this together".

close04 7y ago

I see a case to opening up your tax returns if you want to touch/receive public (state) money under any shape or form. I mean if you're expecting everyone to contribute to your well-being then be prepared to offer something in return(s).

notahacker 7y ago

Taxable incomes which appear remarkably high for a young, attractive person who works an "evening shift" alongside their study course might be something of a giveaway (And yes, people jumping to entirely the wrong conclusion is another potential issue...)