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Having lost not one but 2 dvd players to this nonsense, I've concluded that dvd is a transport medium, not a playback medium. I never play a disc directly. I al

Having lost not one but 2 dvd players to this nonsense, I've concluded that dvd is a transport medium, not a playback medium. I never play a disc directly. I always pull the VIDEO_TS directory with software that can handle this junk and then play it over the network. It makes the viewing experience so much better anyway. No forced ads, unpause-able areas or stupid little "ghost buster" symbol in an upper corner when I push the root menu button. It makes my remote give orders that are followed, not suggestions in some sort of debate.

cpswan 16y ago
I think part of this DRM scheme is to make the process that you describe fail.
- trafficlight 16y ago
  And yet, you can always get around it.
- noonespecial 16y ago
  That was no doubt their goal. But software on computers is much more easily adapted to defeat these silly(1) methods than the DVD player under your TV. The irony is not at all lost on me that in trying prevent piracy, they've made it attractive to me (someone who would not ordinarily pirate) to do something very much like piracy to protect my equipment and have a better consumer experience. Thus I support the ecosystem of tools that they try hardest to eradicate. A classic tale of unintended consequences. (1) What they do is not DRM per-se (the battle for CSS was lost to them long ago), but simply breaking the content structure of the DVD so that software has a hard time following the program chains. If done wrong this can crash the dvd players software, or worse, cause a kind of loop that can quickly damage the physical hardware.
- lurkinggrue 16y ago
  http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvd.html http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvd.html
astrodust 16y ago
I find it a lot better to use the ripped version of a DVD I own because you can't damage it accidentally, you can skip stuff that's otherwise unskippable, and because you can switch movies somewhat easily. It's infuriating how many unskippable ads are injected in movies today. Is there a good jukebox application for playing ripped DVDs?
- cpswan 16y ago
  The whole reason I have the DP-600 in the first place is that in addition to playing DVDs it can play media files (such as rips) from a UPNP server on a PC. Of course there are plenty of other streaming media players out there these days.

cpswan 16y ago

I think part of this DRM scheme is to make the process that you describe fail.

trafficlight 16y ago
And yet, you can always get around it.
noonespecial 16y ago
That was no doubt their goal. But software on computers is much more easily adapted to defeat these silly(1) methods than the DVD player under your TV. The irony is not at all lost on me that in trying prevent piracy, they've made it attractive to me (someone who would not ordinarily pirate) to do something very much like piracy to protect my equipment and have a better consumer experience. Thus I support the ecosystem of tools that they try hardest to eradicate. A classic tale of unintended consequences. (1) What they do is not DRM per-se (the battle for CSS was lost to them long ago), but simply breaking the content structure of the DVD so that software has a hard time following the program chains. If done wrong this can crash the dvd players software, or worse, cause a kind of loop that can quickly damage the physical hardware.
lurkinggrue 16y ago
http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvd.html http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvd.html

astrodust 16y ago

I find it a lot better to use the ripped version of a DVD I own because you can't damage it accidentally, you can skip stuff that's otherwise unskippable, and because you can switch movies somewhat easily. It's infuriating how many unskippable ads are injected in movies today. Is there a good jukebox application for playing ripped DVDs?

cpswan 16y ago
The whole reason I have the DP-600 in the first place is that in addition to playing DVDs it can play media files (such as rips) from a UPNP server on a PC. Of course there are plenty of other streaming media players out there these days.