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I am on one hand glad that Linux is being adopted, but I am mostly sad. We only have two operating systems now Windows and Linux. (MacOS for the desktop as we

I am on one hand glad that Linux is being adopted, but I am mostly sad. We only have two operating systems now Windows and Linux. (MacOS for the desktop as well). It becomes a mono culture, and it takes away healthy competition and innovation. I want many more operating systems, not fewer. I with MS would make it free to run Windows Server, (something they move towards with the CLI only version). In order to hopefully increase adoptation. I dont think that will happen as long as MS has a lot of enterprise custoemrs who are paying huge for the Server licenses.

southern_cross 7y ago
> We only have two operating systems now Windows and Linux. That all depends on what platform(s) you're using. For example, IBM still gives you zOS, AIX, the System i OS, and so on. And there are other operating systems for other platforms. The computing world doesn't begin and end with Wintel, you know; it may seem that way sometimes, though.
- z3phyr 7y ago
  AIX is very unixy, though zOS looks pretty alien from it's description. I would love to work on zOS, but there is very little window of opportunity for that. I would love to see something like https://pharo.org/ https://pharo.org/ booting directly. Its an OS for all intents and purposes (To my realization, languages like Smalltalk, Lisps, Forths ARE Operating Systems)
z3phyr 7y ago
I want more "kinds" of operating systems. It is ripe time to look forward to building ones not based on Unix, files, forks and execs. I want to explore different ideas which were not tested because Unix model became popular. There is a lot to explore on the side of Smalltalk machines, Oberon, Lisp Machines of old. As a developer, live programming language based environments is my kind of thing.
- pjc50 7y ago
  Sure, but an OS that can't run a browser (i.e. it's difficult to port to) is going to have a massive adoption hurdle. I was a big fan of the QNX demo floppy (1.44MB OS with browser), but that didn't lead to me using it on the desktop. http://toastytech.com/guis/qnxdemo.html http://toastytech.com/guis/qnxdemo.html
  - cmiles74 7y ago
    It's too bad that web browsers are so complicated and expensive to port. There might be room for something new and different that runs on it's own VM (like Smalltalk) and can use libraries on the host to get things that do not make sense re-implementing, like a web browser. If it gains sufficient traction, the work to move it to a more stripped down environment would be clearly worth it.
- andai 7y ago
  You forgot to mention TempleOS :) Made from scratch (incl language & compiler), main interface is a shell in the same language the OS is written, designed for recreational programming...
- logicchains 7y ago
  You might like https://github.com/froggey/Mezzano https://github.com/froggey/Mezzano, Common Lisp operating system.
neop1x 7y ago
Yes, but OS is not like a javascript webapp. It is terribly difficult work to do and debug. And there are many other kernels and OSes already. Most kernels don't support the HW you need though. Even Google is writing Fuchsia!

southern_cross 7y ago

> We only have two operating systems now Windows and Linux. That all depends on what platform(s) you're using. For example, IBM still gives you zOS, AIX, the System i OS, and so on. And there are other operating systems for other platforms. The computing world doesn't begin and end with Wintel, you know; it may seem that way sometimes, though.

z3phyr 7y ago
AIX is very unixy, though zOS looks pretty alien from it's description. I would love to work on zOS, but there is very little window of opportunity for that. I would love to see something like https://pharo.org/ https://pharo.org/ booting directly. Its an OS for all intents and purposes (To my realization, languages like Smalltalk, Lisps, Forths ARE Operating Systems)

z3phyr 7y ago

I want more "kinds" of operating systems. It is ripe time to look forward to building ones not based on Unix, files, forks and execs. I want to explore different ideas which were not tested because Unix model became popular. There is a lot to explore on the side of Smalltalk machines, Oberon, Lisp Machines of old. As a developer, live programming language based environments is my kind of thing.

pjc50 7y ago
Sure, but an OS that can't run a browser (i.e. it's difficult to port to) is going to have a massive adoption hurdle. I was a big fan of the QNX demo floppy (1.44MB OS with browser), but that didn't lead to me using it on the desktop. http://toastytech.com/guis/qnxdemo.html http://toastytech.com/guis/qnxdemo.html
- cmiles74 7y ago
  It's too bad that web browsers are so complicated and expensive to port. There might be room for something new and different that runs on it's own VM (like Smalltalk) and can use libraries on the host to get things that do not make sense re-implementing, like a web browser. If it gains sufficient traction, the work to move it to a more stripped down environment would be clearly worth it.
andai 7y ago
You forgot to mention TempleOS :) Made from scratch (incl language & compiler), main interface is a shell in the same language the OS is written, designed for recreational programming...
logicchains 7y ago
You might like https://github.com/froggey/Mezzano https://github.com/froggey/Mezzano, Common Lisp operating system.

neop1x 7y ago

Yes, but OS is not like a javascript webapp. It is terribly difficult work to do and debug. And there are many other kernels and OSes already. Most kernels don't support the HW you need though. Even Google is writing Fuchsia!