> On the flip side, the modern language zeitgeist isn't really trying to change things in fundamental ways I disagree, I'd say all of the quoted languages are

> On the flip side, the modern language zeitgeist isn't really trying to change things in fundamental ways I disagree, I'd say all of the quoted languages are attempting to fundamentally change things to get around the expression problem[0][1] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11683379 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11683379 [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expression_problem https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expression_problem