>Then there's owner (or admin?) security, for example IT vs employees who do dumb things and other similar scenarios. I only see this argument made by Apple fa

>Then there's owner (or admin?) security, for example IT vs employees who do dumb things and other similar scenarios. I only see this argument made by Apple fans, it is always related with branding, something like "we don't want someone phone or laptop to catch fire and destroy Apples perfect brand" . the ironic thing was that after we had this discussion on HN a few days back we had the news that genuine Apple laptops catch fire anyway. Would Microsoft like not to be able to repair the servers they run on their cloud? not to be able ro run whatever code then want on the server? be forced to run the server hardware manufacturer code so they make sure MS is not running the servers incorrectly and make them explode?