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Reminds me of Cappucino, which professed to let you build a single-page webapp using "Objective-J," a strange hybrid of Javascript and ObjC. https://www.cappuc

Reminds me of Cappucino, which professed to let you build a single-page webapp using "Objective-J," a strange hybrid of Javascript and ObjC. https://www.cappuccino.dev/ https://www.cappuccino.dev/

zyang 7y ago
I still remember paying $20 for the Atlas early access but never heard anything after. It was kickstarter before kickstarter. Truly ahead of its time in more than one ways.
dmix 7y ago
Whatever happened to that project? They were one of the early guys trying to do full blown "modern" JS apps on the web around the time when backbone.js came out, but with a more desktopy approach. Edit: I forgot, they were one of the first YC companies. Looks like the parent company got acquired by Motorola and somewhat shutdown their 280slides/Atlas projects. One founder also later started RunKit which was bought by Stripe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/280_North,_Inc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/280_North,_Inc.
- mpweiher 7y ago
  They hit 1.0 in April of last year. https://www.cappuccino.dev/blog/ https://www.cappuccino.dev/blog/
iamgopal 7y ago
Their demo and look were mind blowing
chrismorgan 7y ago
Cappuccino had promise early on, but fell into the trap of trying to reinvent way too much, and doing a horribly bad job of it. The end result looks terribly ugly, and utterly unusable in general. Ugly: it looks like a bad imitation of the appearance of Mac OS X from a mixture of 2002 and 2007, regardless of the fact that I’m on Windows in 2019; and due to pervasive use of 1× raster images instead of vector graphics, gradients, &c. is even more ugly on a high-DPI display. (This use of raster images without complete preload causes rendering issues when a control state is achieved for the first time, too, just like the rollover effects of the era, long since obsolete.) Unusable: it implements scrolling from scratch, which I have never seen work well, or even almost well—it’s just something that you should never under any circumstances do; in this case, I can only get their demos to scroll at about 1% of normal speed on my Surface Book’s touchpad, and touch-based scrolling doesn’t work at all. It tried to be Cocoa on a platform that is not Cocoa at all, with what was even a mediocre implementation a decade ago, let alone now. (I remember being excited about it when it was first announced, until I actually tried using it.)
- carlberg 7y ago
  It is still actively developed and the problems you are talking about are long gone. It is a amazing framework if you know how to develop Mac OS X applications as they have been able to mimic almost all the functionality for use on the web. You can use the Interface Builder in the latest version of the Xcode and quickly create user interfaces. It has been around for more than 10 years and is very stable and mature.

Reminds me of Cappucino, which professed to let you build a single-page webapp using "Objective-J," a strange hybrid of Javascript and ObjC. https://www.cappuccino.dev/ https://www.cappuccino.dev/

zyang 7y ago

I still remember paying $20 for the Atlas early access but never heard anything after. It was kickstarter before kickstarter. Truly ahead of its time in more than one ways.

dmix 7y ago

Whatever happened to that project? They were one of the early guys trying to do full blown "modern" JS apps on the web around the time when backbone.js came out, but with a more desktopy approach. Edit: I forgot, they were one of the first YC companies. Looks like the parent company got acquired by Motorola and somewhat shutdown their 280slides/Atlas projects. One founder also later started RunKit which was bought by Stripe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/280_North,_Inc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/280_North,_Inc.

mpweiher 7y ago
They hit 1.0 in April of last year. https://www.cappuccino.dev/blog/ https://www.cappuccino.dev/blog/

iamgopal 7y ago

Their demo and look were mind blowing

chrismorgan 7y ago

Cappuccino had promise early on, but fell into the trap of trying to reinvent way too much, and doing a horribly bad job of it. The end result looks terribly ugly, and utterly unusable in general. Ugly: it looks like a bad imitation of the appearance of Mac OS X from a mixture of 2002 and 2007, regardless of the fact that I’m on Windows in 2019; and due to pervasive use of 1× raster images instead of vector graphics, gradients, &c. is even more ugly on a high-DPI display. (This use of raster images without complete preload causes rendering issues when a control state is achieved for the first time, too, just like the rollover effects of the era, long since obsolete.) Unusable: it implements scrolling from scratch, which I have never seen work well, or even almost well—it’s just something that you should never under any circumstances do; in this case, I can only get their demos to scroll at about 1% of normal speed on my Surface Book’s touchpad, and touch-based scrolling doesn’t work at all. It tried to be Cocoa on a platform that is not Cocoa at all, with what was even a mediocre implementation a decade ago, let alone now. (I remember being excited about it when it was first announced, until I actually tried using it.)

carlberg 7y ago
It is still actively developed and the problems you are talking about are long gone. It is a amazing framework if you know how to develop Mac OS X applications as they have been able to mimic almost all the functionality for use on the web. You can use the Interface Builder in the latest version of the Xcode and quickly create user interfaces. It has been around for more than 10 years and is very stable and mature.