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How are Reddit’s marketing choices related to this article?

by bromuro 7y ago

NullPrefix 7y ago
JavaScript. They use too much of it.
- threeseed 7y ago
  Javascript has nothing to do with those decisions. It is purely design.
  - AlchemistCamp 7y ago
    > Javascript has nothing to do with those decisions. It is purely design. How do you implement infinite scroll without JavaScript? The theme tying all their choices together is costs they're willing to inflict upon their users. Bloated JS payloads are simply one example.
    - NullPrefix 7y ago
      > How do you implement infinite scroll without JavaScript? Technically it's possible. Render the website server side as an image. Chrome 75+ supports native lazy loading of images, so a series of them stacked vertically is needed. Each image represents a new page, scroll through them to navigate. Click detection can be done with a <map> tag.
      - furyofantares 7y ago
        I think you can also just keep sending html. Send a page with page2.png at the bottom and keep the connection open. This is a sentinel image to detect scrolling — when page2.png is requested, use this as a command to tell the server to start sending html for page 2 on the original connection, which would have page3.png at the bottom.
        NullPrefix 7y ago
        This is even simpler. Forgot that HTML can be executed while loading.
- orange8 7y ago
  JavaScript is now a marketing choice? Wow!
  - NullPrefix 7y ago
    Can you even?
nine_k 7y ago
Skimmable design → shorter time and smaller space for ads → less ad revenue. I wish Reddit ran something like Youtube Premium, a paid ad-free experience with actually comfortable layout.
- Arbalest 7y ago
  If something is going to be ad free, it had better also be tracking free.
- TheAceOfHearts 7y ago
  You can buy reddit premium so you no longer get ads. It's absolutely bullshit how much stuff they still track, though.
  - alyandon 7y ago
    They lost me as a premium subscriber because they no longer offer a discounted annual subscription plan and instead expect me to pay $6/mo ($72/yr) for ad-free access to a site that is comprised of user-generated content. That's more than the subscription price of some actual news sites.
jmkni 7y ago
The article uses Reddit's Javascript execution times as an example

How are Reddit’s marketing choices related to this article?

NullPrefix 7y ago

JavaScript. They use too much of it.

threeseed 7y ago
Javascript has nothing to do with those decisions. It is purely design.
- AlchemistCamp 7y ago
  > Javascript has nothing to do with those decisions. It is purely design. How do you implement infinite scroll without JavaScript? The theme tying all their choices together is costs they're willing to inflict upon their users. Bloated JS payloads are simply one example.
  - NullPrefix 7y ago
    > How do you implement infinite scroll without JavaScript? Technically it's possible. Render the website server side as an image. Chrome 75+ supports native lazy loading of images, so a series of them stacked vertically is needed. Each image represents a new page, scroll through them to navigate. Click detection can be done with a <map> tag.
    - furyofantares 7y ago
      I think you can also just keep sending html. Send a page with page2.png at the bottom and keep the connection open. This is a sentinel image to detect scrolling — when page2.png is requested, use this as a command to tell the server to start sending html for page 2 on the original connection, which would have page3.png at the bottom.
      - NullPrefix 7y ago
        This is even simpler. Forgot that HTML can be executed while loading.
orange8 7y ago
JavaScript is now a marketing choice? Wow!
- NullPrefix 7y ago
  Can you even?

nine_k 7y ago

Skimmable design → shorter time and smaller space for ads → less ad revenue. I wish Reddit ran something like Youtube Premium, a paid ad-free experience with actually comfortable layout.

Arbalest 7y ago
If something is going to be ad free, it had better also be tracking free.
TheAceOfHearts 7y ago
You can buy reddit premium so you no longer get ads. It's absolutely bullshit how much stuff they still track, though.
- alyandon 7y ago
  They lost me as a premium subscriber because they no longer offer a discounted annual subscription plan and instead expect me to pay $6/mo ($72/yr) for ad-free access to a site that is comprised of user-generated content. That's more than the subscription price of some actual news sites.

jmkni 7y ago

The article uses Reddit's Javascript execution times as an example