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Fram isn't a short term issue. There are countless arsehole editors who get away with being insufferable arseholes because they make many edits and because the
by DanBC 7y ago
Fram isn't a short term issue. There are countless arsehole editors who get away with being insufferable arseholes because they make many edits and because the admins turn a blind eye, and this has been happening for very many years.
The inability of ANI and arbcom to do anything is the long running issue. They had their chance, they fucked it up, it's entirely unsurprising that WMF is enforcing the most basic wikipedia conventions.
- Sniffnoy 7y agoBy "short-term" vs "long-term" here, I'm not talking about how long something has been going on so far. I'm talking about how far into the future this will affect things. Breaking process so completely like this threatens long-term stability. It's not like "break process completely to ban Fram" and "just do nothing" were the only options. The WMF could have acted in a way other than in such a potentially disastrous way. If the process is producing wrong results (e.g. Fram should be banned but he isn't), you try to figure out why and make a better one, not just ignore it.