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Maybe look at a different programming paradigm then? :) I remember trying to learn APL and then watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Mt0GYHU9A https://ww

Maybe look at a different programming paradigm then? :) I remember trying to learn APL and then watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Mt0GYHU9A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Mt0GYHU9A and was amused that there is this world where programming is just symbols :D So maybe look at i.e. something apl-like, or maybe ml or haskell or erlang, where so many things you can do with functions and composing them, or even Prolog, where everything could be thought of as a set of rules/constraints to be solved (I think? haven't programmed in Prolog since uni :) )

geocar 7y ago
APL is great. If you haven't seen them, the late John Scholes did a number of absolutely beautiful demonstrations programming in APL[1], [2], [3]. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsZdfnlh_d0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsZdfnlh_d0 [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmT80OseAGs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmT80OseAGs [3]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9xAKttWgP4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9xAKttWgP4
- jodrellblank 7y ago
  For anyone looking to get into APL, Adám at Dyalog posts a lot of answers on the CodeGolf and Programming Puzzles StackExchange site often with expanded/explained code, and he hangs in the "APL Orchard" chatroom on SO. His profile says "always excited to [talk about] APL" and that seems to be genuine. - https://codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/users/43319/ad%C3%A1m https://codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/users/43319/ad%C3%A1... The most public APL dialect using the classic symbols (not J/K/Q/etc) seems to be Dyalog APL - they offer one of their older versions 14 free for non-commercial use (Windows), and they offer their current version 17 free for non-commercial use if you give them your full details (maybe Linux as well?). There is a book "Mastering Dyalog APL" by Bernard Legrand from ~2008 which is available as a PDF with companion files from: https://www.dyalog.com/mastering-dyalog-apl.htm https://www.dyalog.com/mastering-dyalog-apl.htm although they have added to the language since that book was released. There are other APL interpreters - GNU APL, NARS2000, ngn/apl, dzaima/apl (Java/Android) in various states of development and license conditions, and the developers of the last two are also sometimes in the APL Orchard chatroom on StackExchange. Online there's https://tryapl.org/ https://tryapl.org/ run by Dyalog, and https://tio.run/# https://tio.run/# which has three APL interpreters. The classic 1970s book "APL\360 an Interactive Approach" by Gilman and Rose is online as a PDF here: http://www.softwarepreservation.org/projects/apl/Books/ http://www.softwarepreservation.org/projects/apl/Books/ with other books as well. That's before the {} syntax for anonymous functions was added to the language, and other developments. Videos: Jay Foad while he was at Dyalog, talking through some Advent of Code puzzles with APL: https://dyalog.tv/Webinar/?v=Q_vgSN6rza0 https://dyalog.tv/Webinar/?v=Q_vgSN6rza0 (might want to skip the introduction of explaining the Advent of Code puzzle format). Aaron Hsu with Dhaval Dalal and Morten Kromberg, talking through some problems using APL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsj_7tFtODk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsj_7tFtODk And anything that you get from YouTube searching for Aaron Hsu, he has several talks / presentations from high level ideas to working with trees represented using arrays.

geocar 7y ago

APL is great. If you haven't seen them, the late John Scholes did a number of absolutely beautiful demonstrations programming in APL[1], [2], [3]. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsZdfnlh_d0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsZdfnlh_d0 [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmT80OseAGs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmT80OseAGs [3]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9xAKttWgP4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9xAKttWgP4

jodrellblank 7y ago
For anyone looking to get into APL, Adám at Dyalog posts a lot of answers on the CodeGolf and Programming Puzzles StackExchange site often with expanded/explained code, and he hangs in the "APL Orchard" chatroom on SO. His profile says "always excited to [talk about] APL" and that seems to be genuine. - https://codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/users/43319/ad%C3%A1m https://codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/users/43319/ad%C3%A1... The most public APL dialect using the classic symbols (not J/K/Q/etc) seems to be Dyalog APL - they offer one of their older versions 14 free for non-commercial use (Windows), and they offer their current version 17 free for non-commercial use if you give them your full details (maybe Linux as well?). There is a book "Mastering Dyalog APL" by Bernard Legrand from ~2008 which is available as a PDF with companion files from: https://www.dyalog.com/mastering-dyalog-apl.htm https://www.dyalog.com/mastering-dyalog-apl.htm although they have added to the language since that book was released. There are other APL interpreters - GNU APL, NARS2000, ngn/apl, dzaima/apl (Java/Android) in various states of development and license conditions, and the developers of the last two are also sometimes in the APL Orchard chatroom on StackExchange. Online there's https://tryapl.org/ https://tryapl.org/ run by Dyalog, and https://tio.run/# https://tio.run/# which has three APL interpreters. The classic 1970s book "APL\360 an Interactive Approach" by Gilman and Rose is online as a PDF here: http://www.softwarepreservation.org/projects/apl/Books/ http://www.softwarepreservation.org/projects/apl/Books/ with other books as well. That's before the {} syntax for anonymous functions was added to the language, and other developments. Videos: Jay Foad while he was at Dyalog, talking through some Advent of Code puzzles with APL: https://dyalog.tv/Webinar/?v=Q_vgSN6rza0 https://dyalog.tv/Webinar/?v=Q_vgSN6rza0 (might want to skip the introduction of explaining the Advent of Code puzzle format). Aaron Hsu with Dhaval Dalal and Morten Kromberg, talking through some problems using APL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsj_7tFtODk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsj_7tFtODk And anything that you get from YouTube searching for Aaron Hsu, he has several talks / presentations from high level ideas to working with trees represented using arrays.