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There are many issues with the WMF T&S team's actions. They completely bypass the community procedures in place, deal out arbitrary sanctions without any expla
by nsajko 7y ago
There are many issues with the WMF T&S team's actions.
They completely bypass the community procedures in place, deal out arbitrary sanctions without any explanation or justification and simultaneously refuse to deal with real issues that the community(ies) really can not deal with.
Quoting a Wikimedia steward (Rschen): "I know for Croatian [Wikipedia] we stewards
point-blank asked T&S if they would do anything about it and they said
no."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation%27s_ban_of_Fram https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_t...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation%27s_ban_of_Fram/Archive_2#Two_similar_bans_&_one_%22conduct_warning%22_on_Chinese_Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_t...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation%27s_ban_of_Fram/Archive_2#FYI:_Similar_incident_in_de.wp_some_months_ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_t...
- the_duke 7y agoI don't have a skin in this game either way, but the discussion about the open letter [1] has multiple, mostly unrefuted and partially acknowledged posts claiming that the arbitration process was not working, lead to negative behavior remaining unmitigated and is in need of improvement. The open letter itself acknowledges this fact. If processes aren't working, sometimes a shakeup and ensuing drama is required to improve things. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard#Open_letter_to_the_WMF_Board https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Com...
- nsajko 7y agoSure, the Arbitration Committee and the processes associated with it are not perfect. But is an unaccountable, invisible and all powerful judge, jury and executioner institution like the T&S a good or fair thing? If you look at the context apart form just the Fram case, you will see that T&S behaves very strangely.