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seemed like a good trial idea until I got onto the pricing page... to get SSO, we'd have to start out with the 11$/user/month plan, in my current company(~1000

by simpss 7y ago

seemed like a good trial idea until I got onto the pricing page... to get SSO, we'd have to start out with the 11$/user/month plan, in my current company(~1000 users) that would mean roughly 132 000$ a year making it a pretty tough sell.

msaharia 7y ago
I would love to have something like this for a research group. But that is too steep a pricing!
- nitrogen 7y ago
  At that scale it's likely you can negotiate a custom contract.
  - msaharia 7y ago
    At my scale (<10 people), I can't. Are there any alternatives, open or closed source?
    - johannes1234321 7y ago
      Even at that scale you probably could ask - typically those companies value direct contact over "anonymous" online sales as they hope for longer term upselling opportunities once they have a name and phone number and give discount.
    - KabaKun 7y ago
      For 10 people you probably don't need the middle level, only the low one, which is $5/seat/month. There's also non-profit and educational pricing if you're associated with one of those. It's 50 cents/seat/month for the low level or $1.10/user/month for the middle one. They mentioned it on MSO. https://meta.stackoverflow.com/a/367590 https://meta.stackoverflow.com/a/367590
shagie 7y ago
This is where other solutions such as the Q&A plugin for Confluance have their place. The Q&A plugin for 1k users is $1000/year (on top of the $24k/year for the 1k users)... but that's a small fraction of the price for the enterprise cost. ... And lacking the integration with other systems, the enterprise version of SO (and for that matter, teams) really lacks a good price / integration / use pitch.
bigfailwhale 7y ago
But what is the value of something that actually helps users get answers faster? What is the cost of someone waiting around trying to find an answer? I can tell you from experience having implemented my fair share of content systems that: 1) You can always get them cheaper than the list price 2) If it works, the software pays for itself in less than a year You can always get a tool for low-cost (or even free with open source). Having something that is already used by developers and has a good reputation makes it a pretty easy sale in my book.

by simpss 7y ago

msaharia 7y ago

I would love to have something like this for a research group. But that is too steep a pricing!

nitrogen 7y ago
At that scale it's likely you can negotiate a custom contract.
- msaharia 7y ago
  At my scale (<10 people), I can't. Are there any alternatives, open or closed source?
  - johannes1234321 7y ago
    Even at that scale you probably could ask - typically those companies value direct contact over "anonymous" online sales as they hope for longer term upselling opportunities once they have a name and phone number and give discount.
  - KabaKun 7y ago
    For 10 people you probably don't need the middle level, only the low one, which is $5/seat/month. There's also non-profit and educational pricing if you're associated with one of those. It's 50 cents/seat/month for the low level or $1.10/user/month for the middle one. They mentioned it on MSO. https://meta.stackoverflow.com/a/367590 https://meta.stackoverflow.com/a/367590

shagie 7y ago

This is where other solutions such as the Q&A plugin for Confluance have their place. The Q&A plugin for 1k users is $1000/year (on top of the $24k/year for the 1k users)... but that's a small fraction of the price for the enterprise cost. ... And lacking the integration with other systems, the enterprise version of SO (and for that matter, teams) really lacks a good price / integration / use pitch.

bigfailwhale 7y ago

But what is the value of something that actually helps users get answers faster? What is the cost of someone waiting around trying to find an answer? I can tell you from experience having implemented my fair share of content systems that: 1) You can always get them cheaper than the list price 2) If it works, the software pays for itself in less than a year You can always get a tool for low-cost (or even free with open source). Having something that is already used by developers and has a good reputation makes it a pretty easy sale in my book.