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The domain name is pretty clever assuming your customers are already drinking the "flash-is-dead" koolaid, but this is a service that any web developer can offe

by lhorie 16y ago

The domain name is pretty clever assuming your customers are already drinking the "flash-is-dead" koolaid, but this is a service that any web developer can offer. Incidentally, the tracypaul demo isn't HTML5, and doesn't even animate like in the original site. And don't even get me started on the comment at the top triggering quirksmode.

RodgerTheGreat 16y ago
This deserves more mention. My initial reaction was something along the lines of "oh, ho-hum, they've figured out how to convert Flash animation into equivalent canvas effects without running an entire flash VM in javascript", but that demo makes it look more like they barely do anything more than extract image resources and cobble together a CSS template that makes the page look basically the same. If somebody had a website that used Flash for anything complex they would be sorely disappointed by these results. I guess their main market is websites that had no business using Flash in the first place?
- jaysonelliot 16y ago
  Good point. I haven't really dug in to see if they're doing it well or not. If they're just doing what you say, then they're going to have a lot of upset clients very quickly.
  - artur_mak 16y ago
    To meet client's expectations, we do a full phone consultation explaining the scope of the service. ( and soon in an FAQ ) For most customers, we are discovering that the basic plan/feature set is enough to get them started ( remember ITS NOT REPLACING their Flash site.. just AUGMENTING IT ) However, the few who cant live without their custom apps and animations, we do offer the ability to customize their site down to the pixel. thank for your feedback, artur | founder
jaysonelliot 16y ago
I don't think you need to drink any "koolaid." There are many reasons to convert from Flash to HTML, not least of which is cross-device compatibility. Philosophy and ideological arguments might be interesting over coffee at 3am, but right now, companies want HTML5 sites. Sure, any web developer can offer this service. The point is that they ARE doing it, and packaging their service very well. I've already sent this site to friends at three different agencies, and got enthusiastic responses all around.
- lhorie 16y ago
  For the record, I'm not trying to start a silly argument about philosophies or whatever, I'm just making an observation that many people who are not techies don't really care if you're using a guy in tights or a movie about coffee. FWIW, my company already offers these same services, (in addition to many other). These days, you'd be foolish not to, since it requires such a trivial skillset (as far as webdevs go anyways). I did mention that I liked the domain name. I just wasn't all that impressed with the quality of the demo (both in terms of pizzazz and code quality).
  - artur_makly 16y ago
    We are optimizing the code for our next main release which will also feature an HTML5 video portfolio.
  - jaysonelliot 16y ago
    I have to agree now that I've looked more at what they're really doing. It's a good concept/name, like you say, but doesn't look like they're actually executing on it.
- citricsquid 16y ago
  "companies want HTML5 sites"? No, they want buzzwords. This isn't HTML5 in any meaningful way, sure if they carried across the "effects" and stuff it might be truly "converting" flash, but all they're doing is remaking the layout removing everything that the client probably originally wanted (unless they were pushed into using Flash by a crappy developer) and then packaging it as some magical "social" win.

by lhorie 16y ago

RodgerTheGreat 16y ago

This deserves more mention. My initial reaction was something along the lines of "oh, ho-hum, they've figured out how to convert Flash animation into equivalent canvas effects without running an entire flash VM in javascript", but that demo makes it look more like they barely do anything more than extract image resources and cobble together a CSS template that makes the page look basically the same. If somebody had a website that used Flash for anything complex they would be sorely disappointed by these results. I guess their main market is websites that had no business using Flash in the first place?

jaysonelliot 16y ago
Good point. I haven't really dug in to see if they're doing it well or not. If they're just doing what you say, then they're going to have a lot of upset clients very quickly.
- artur_mak 16y ago
  To meet client's expectations, we do a full phone consultation explaining the scope of the service. ( and soon in an FAQ ) For most customers, we are discovering that the basic plan/feature set is enough to get them started ( remember ITS NOT REPLACING their Flash site.. just AUGMENTING IT ) However, the few who cant live without their custom apps and animations, we do offer the ability to customize their site down to the pixel. thank for your feedback, artur | founder

jaysonelliot 16y ago

I don't think you need to drink any "koolaid." There are many reasons to convert from Flash to HTML, not least of which is cross-device compatibility. Philosophy and ideological arguments might be interesting over coffee at 3am, but right now, companies want HTML5 sites. Sure, any web developer can offer this service. The point is that they ARE doing it, and packaging their service very well. I've already sent this site to friends at three different agencies, and got enthusiastic responses all around.

lhorie 16y ago
For the record, I'm not trying to start a silly argument about philosophies or whatever, I'm just making an observation that many people who are not techies don't really care if you're using a guy in tights or a movie about coffee. FWIW, my company already offers these same services, (in addition to many other). These days, you'd be foolish not to, since it requires such a trivial skillset (as far as webdevs go anyways). I did mention that I liked the domain name. I just wasn't all that impressed with the quality of the demo (both in terms of pizzazz and code quality).
- artur_makly 16y ago
  We are optimizing the code for our next main release which will also feature an HTML5 video portfolio.
- jaysonelliot 16y ago
  I have to agree now that I've looked more at what they're really doing. It's a good concept/name, like you say, but doesn't look like they're actually executing on it.
citricsquid 16y ago
"companies want HTML5 sites"? No, they want buzzwords. This isn't HTML5 in any meaningful way, sure if they carried across the "effects" and stuff it might be truly "converting" flash, but all they're doing is remaking the layout removing everything that the client probably originally wanted (unless they were pushed into using Flash by a crappy developer) and then packaging it as some magical "social" win.