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> The authors say they have no intention of minimizing the very real problem of serious domestic violence — the classic male batterer. The survey did not cover
by untog 7y ago
> The authors say they have no intention of minimizing the very real problem of serious domestic violence — the classic male batterer. The survey did not cover the use of knives, guns, choking, or burning, and it was not concerned with the kind of situation that can drive a woman to seek shelter outside the home. The view of the authors is that most intimate partner violence should not be equated with severe battering. Domestic disputes that turn physical because of retaliation and escalation do not have the same causes or the same consequences as male battering. Couples counseling is generally regarded as ineffective for batterers, but if the violence is moderate and the injuries are minor, both partners are involved, and they want to stay together, it makes sense for a therapist to work with both of them.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/In_Brief_Domestic_violence_Not_always_one_sided https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/In_Brief_D...
The article's own summary suggests against making the kind of conclusions the article you linked to makes.
> If you are speaking historically, surely you are not suggesting incarceration of men as reparations for things we didn't do?
Not even slightly and it's an absurd reading of my post to suggest that I am.
- cheez 7y ago> The article's own summary suggests against making the kind of conclusions the article you linked to makes. Of course, they have to. Do you think 30% of men murder their wives? No, clearly it's some small percentage that severely batter. Therefore, those are the statistics that I would ignore and rather focus on the remainder who are the men that suffer as a result of this type of conflation. It's politically easy to conflate the two, of course. But it isn't intellectually honest. > Not even slightly and it's an absurd reading of my post to suggest that I am. So why should historical events I have no responsibility for serve to restrict my freedom? In an argument with my wife, I am the batterer, in divorce court, I am simply a pocket to be picked. Let's make sure we understand the power dynamics at play. This is about reducing my autonomy to benefit a certain segment of society.
- untog 7y ago> So why should historical events I have no responsibility for serve to restrict my freedom? Again: I am not suggesting that. No-one is suggesting that. I am saying that society is attempting to move beyond horrifying historical trends, and that in the course of that has over-corrected in some areas. No-one is suggesting this is a good thing or that it shouldn't be fixed.
- cheez 7y agoAnd I am saying these horrifying trends with men battering women to the point of death never existed.