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Obesity derives from calorie intake, not from the quality of the food. But I guess there is a strong correlation between people eating junk food and the ones ea

Obesity derives from calorie intake, not from the quality of the food. But I guess there is a strong correlation between people eating junk food and the ones eating too much food. Probably, if you don't care about what you're eating you also don't check the calories count.

cyrksoft 7y ago
That’s what I meant. By ‘much’ I meant that by eating a lot whole foods it’s really hard to be obese, you’ll get full faster or they are just not caloric enough. I guess I should improve my English writing skills ;)
gdubs 7y ago
Isn’t their a strong argument out there that hormones play a bigger role in why people become obese? E.g., insulin resistance from too much sugar, which makes the body store fat.
sametmax 7y ago
Not only. First, some people, eating the same excess calories than you, won't store it as fast. Genetics play a role. Also, you may store more fat or not depending of: - the time of the day you eat it (you will more likely store things if you eat it late than early in the morning due to your homonal cycle) - the duration on which you eat it (the infamous 9 hours popularized by dr rhonda patrick) - what you mix. Eating the same amount of calories in pure fat, or in a mix of 50% fat and sugar will not result in the same process by the liver. - insulin sensibility. Which is influence by the quality of your food. E.G: how much sugar it contains. - ability to process said food, again influenced by the state of irritation of your intestine and your microbiome, and hence influenced by the quality of your food. E.G: adult can get irritated intestines by intaking dairy product after they lost their childhood ability to proess it as well. I know it's a convenient shortcut to say "calories in, calories out", especially since it's easy to demonstrate (the anecdotal Twinkie diet made us all think). But if we keep repeating that, we are not helping people to lose weight. Dieting has a very low success rate because of the solely focus on the calorie count, while using the informations above as well lead to less rebound and frustration in my experience.
- tomp 7y ago
  I agree that dieting is hard, but it's largely not because of different calories being stored differently. The big nutritional study [1] sponsored by Gary Taubes (the main proponent of "not every calorie is created equal") show that low-carb and low-fat diets result in same weight loss. I'm also not aware of any study (though I haven't looked very hard) that shows intermittent fasting results in greater energy consumption (and hence lower fat gain / greater fat loss) except by making it somewhat easier to eat less. [1] https://freetheanimal.com/2018/02/taues-peter-strikes.html https://freetheanimal.com/2018/02/taues-peter-strikes.html
- hombre_fatal 7y ago
  Also, people tend to be consistent in the weight of food they eat, so eating less energy dense foods helps people lose weight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGbGKSNPBzo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGbGKSNPBzo For example, adding an apple between meals helping women to lose weight.

cyrksoft 7y ago

That’s what I meant. By ‘much’ I meant that by eating a lot whole foods it’s really hard to be obese, you’ll get full faster or they are just not caloric enough. I guess I should improve my English writing skills ;)

gdubs 7y ago

Isn’t their a strong argument out there that hormones play a bigger role in why people become obese? E.g., insulin resistance from too much sugar, which makes the body store fat.

sametmax 7y ago

Not only. First, some people, eating the same excess calories than you, won't store it as fast. Genetics play a role. Also, you may store more fat or not depending of: - the time of the day you eat it (you will more likely store things if you eat it late than early in the morning due to your homonal cycle) - the duration on which you eat it (the infamous 9 hours popularized by dr rhonda patrick) - what you mix. Eating the same amount of calories in pure fat, or in a mix of 50% fat and sugar will not result in the same process by the liver. - insulin sensibility. Which is influence by the quality of your food. E.G: how much sugar it contains. - ability to process said food, again influenced by the state of irritation of your intestine and your microbiome, and hence influenced by the quality of your food. E.G: adult can get irritated intestines by intaking dairy product after they lost their childhood ability to proess it as well. I know it's a convenient shortcut to say "calories in, calories out", especially since it's easy to demonstrate (the anecdotal Twinkie diet made us all think). But if we keep repeating that, we are not helping people to lose weight. Dieting has a very low success rate because of the solely focus on the calorie count, while using the informations above as well lead to less rebound and frustration in my experience.

tomp 7y ago
I agree that dieting is hard, but it's largely not because of different calories being stored differently. The big nutritional study [1] sponsored by Gary Taubes (the main proponent of "not every calorie is created equal") show that low-carb and low-fat diets result in same weight loss. I'm also not aware of any study (though I haven't looked very hard) that shows intermittent fasting results in greater energy consumption (and hence lower fat gain / greater fat loss) except by making it somewhat easier to eat less. [1] https://freetheanimal.com/2018/02/taues-peter-strikes.html https://freetheanimal.com/2018/02/taues-peter-strikes.html
hombre_fatal 7y ago
Also, people tend to be consistent in the weight of food they eat, so eating less energy dense foods helps people lose weight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGbGKSNPBzo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGbGKSNPBzo For example, adding an apple between meals helping women to lose weight.