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You might want to turn your skimming level down a bit. Wikipedia's community has a long established set of processes for self-governance, but they were bypasse
by nullc 7y ago
You might want to turn your skimming level down a bit.
Wikipedia's community has a long established set of processes for self-governance, but they were bypassed in this case.
The administration in question was banned by staff of the Wikimedia foundation, the 501c3 non-profit created by the community for the purpose of the operation of the infrastructure of Wikipedia, and have done so without providing a clear justification both for the circumvention of the project's governance and the specific. This is a highly unusual though not completely unprecedented event.
99% of the people who are up in arms about this would have had no issue had the arbcom banned the user in question, the constitutional issue is what has people so concerned.
- DanBC 7y ago> Wikipedia's community has a long established set of processes for self-governance, but they were bypassed in this case. This is untrue. The processes were used and they failed to work. They failed to protect people from this abusive admin. Read the discussion about fram - there are plenty of people there saying "he's a bit of an arsehole but he edits a lot". Clearly the existing processes were aware that fram was abusive.
- nullc 7y agoWikimedia is currently not even providing information about their actions to the arbcom. How can you argue that the process didn't work when it is apparently contingent on information which is being concealed from it? People in the discussion aren't for the most part arguing that fram shouldn't be banned-- the discussion is almost exclusively about the constitutional issues and accusations of impropriety. ... but "bit of an arsehole" could mean a lot of things and doesn't necessarily mean abusive. Edit: The arbcom has issued a statement-- a fairly strongly worded one, by arbcom's standards: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation's_ban_of_Fram#Open_letter_from_the_Arbitration_Committee_to_the_WMF_Board https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_t...