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The impact of this charge is much greater than $500k. How much in fees did he pay lawyers to get the plea deal? What are the chances he will get hired as a CIO

The impact of this charge is much greater than $500k. How much in fees did he pay lawyers to get the plea deal? What are the chances he will get hired as a CIO again? This has significantly long-lasting impact on his life and career.

4ntonius8lock 7y ago
The same applies to literally everyone who gets indicted and goes to jail. What exactly is your point?
- Zombieball 7y ago
  That he did not get off the hook with minimal impact to his life. That it is not simply “4 months in jail” and a whole bunch of extra cash in his pocket.
  - jtdev 7y ago
    You’re conflating the inherent, natural consequences of the crime he committed with the legal consequences...
  - 4ntonius8lock 7y ago
    His sentence was very light. That you have consequences to crime outside the judicial system... again, is something everyone has. It applies the same to the guy selling a little weed on the side who loses his day job when he gets busted as it does to the CIO who does a little insider trading on the side and loses his day job when busted. Everyone loses their job when busted. Especially when the crime is related to betraying the hand that feeds you. There's absolutely zero reason to bring up the loss of job as punishment, unless you are trying to subtly defend the sentencing without actually having to take up that position explicitly with clear arguments.
z3c0 7y ago
Frankly, I don't think "not being able to be a CIO" is a very serious impact, especially as he's demonstrated his lack of ethical reasoning in such a position. There's plenty of upper-management IT positions that he could downgrade to and still make well into the six-figure range. I'm not saying he's escaping unscathed - I'm saying he's getting away RELATIVELY unscathed compared to what lower-income convicts go through. He's going to be just fine, and there isn't any way you could frame his situation to be worse than what drug offenders are put through.
- Zombieball 7y ago
  > I'm not saying he's escaping unscathed - I'm saying he's getting away RELATIVELY unscathed compared to what lower-income convicts go through. Makes sense. I’m totally in agreement here.

4ntonius8lock 7y ago

The same applies to literally everyone who gets indicted and goes to jail. What exactly is your point?

Zombieball 7y ago
That he did not get off the hook with minimal impact to his life. That it is not simply “4 months in jail” and a whole bunch of extra cash in his pocket.
- jtdev 7y ago
  You’re conflating the inherent, natural consequences of the crime he committed with the legal consequences...
- 4ntonius8lock 7y ago
  His sentence was very light. That you have consequences to crime outside the judicial system... again, is something everyone has. It applies the same to the guy selling a little weed on the side who loses his day job when he gets busted as it does to the CIO who does a little insider trading on the side and loses his day job when busted. Everyone loses their job when busted. Especially when the crime is related to betraying the hand that feeds you. There's absolutely zero reason to bring up the loss of job as punishment, unless you are trying to subtly defend the sentencing without actually having to take up that position explicitly with clear arguments.

z3c0 7y ago

Frankly, I don't think "not being able to be a CIO" is a very serious impact, especially as he's demonstrated his lack of ethical reasoning in such a position. There's plenty of upper-management IT positions that he could downgrade to and still make well into the six-figure range. I'm not saying he's escaping unscathed - I'm saying he's getting away RELATIVELY unscathed compared to what lower-income convicts go through. He's going to be just fine, and there isn't any way you could frame his situation to be worse than what drug offenders are put through.

Zombieball 7y ago
> I'm not saying he's escaping unscathed - I'm saying he's getting away RELATIVELY unscathed compared to what lower-income convicts go through. Makes sense. I’m totally in agreement here.