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>We can all talk about the wonders of a free market You don't have a free market in US. Try to sell a drug, for example. You need to get FDA's approval. And FD

>We can all talk about the wonders of a free market You don't have a free market in US. Try to sell a drug, for example. You need to get FDA's approval. And FDA is run by big pharma, so even if your drug is used in EU and proved fine, you need to spend quite a lot to push it on american market. US is more a classic corporate (i.e. fascist) state than a free market state.

AlexCoventry 7y ago
Has there ever been a free-market state, in that case?
- ernst_klim 7y ago
  There is nothing perfect, but EU is much closer to proper market than US. I'm far from being anarcho-capitalist myself, but I think that all the america's troubles are from the terrific centralization of power, and from how this power is controlling everybody's lives, while being controlled by so few entities. That's why I warn any american of any sort of increase of gov's presence. It will cause a great calamity, because the centralized power can never be controlled by many. It's fine if you have a small/local transparent government controlling and regulating. But when you have a big opaque one, you end up in a crony/fascist state. EU is very different in that regard: EU parliament is a very weak political entity, the states' governments are much stronger, and the govs of local provinces are even pore stronger, so the whole political system is very healthy. US seems to be just the opposite to that.
  - jackcosgrove 7y ago
    A federation like Germany, which was historically made of small principalities, fits your description. However France is famously centralized, and the UK while less so is also more centralized than the US.
    - ernst_klim 7y ago
      >However France is famously centralized Yes, but if you consider the size of economy and population, France = California, and EU = US federal government. And France, being centralized, is quite independent and self-governed, unlike California.

AlexCoventry 7y ago

Has there ever been a free-market state, in that case?

ernst_klim 7y ago
There is nothing perfect, but EU is much closer to proper market than US. I'm far from being anarcho-capitalist myself, but I think that all the america's troubles are from the terrific centralization of power, and from how this power is controlling everybody's lives, while being controlled by so few entities. That's why I warn any american of any sort of increase of gov's presence. It will cause a great calamity, because the centralized power can never be controlled by many. It's fine if you have a small/local transparent government controlling and regulating. But when you have a big opaque one, you end up in a crony/fascist state. EU is very different in that regard: EU parliament is a very weak political entity, the states' governments are much stronger, and the govs of local provinces are even pore stronger, so the whole political system is very healthy. US seems to be just the opposite to that.
- jackcosgrove 7y ago
  A federation like Germany, which was historically made of small principalities, fits your description. However France is famously centralized, and the UK while less so is also more centralized than the US.
  - ernst_klim 7y ago
    >However France is famously centralized Yes, but if you consider the size of economy and population, France = California, and EU = US federal government. And France, being centralized, is quite independent and self-governed, unlike California.