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It is used as biofuel..

by chewz 7y ago

Falling3 7y ago
It's also a very common food ingredient.
- Symbiote 7y ago
  It's about the only thing I look for on the ingredients list. I stopped buying anything containing palm oil a few years ago.
  - kawsper 7y ago
    I recently stumbled upon a drone video showing the effect of palm oil: https://youtu.be/7bTbUOI3qko?t=2397 https://youtu.be/7bTbUOI3qko?t=2397 (around the 40 minute mark), just endless seas of palm trees.
    - lonelappde 7y ago
      So, same as every other mass produced commodity?
      - kawsper 7y ago
        Of course, I had just never seen a palm oil plantation before.
    - mopsi 7y ago
      I stopped buying products with palm oil after binging on orangutan rescue videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyvTuvYGPkI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyvTuvYGPkI Before I wasn't aware of its effect on orangutan habitats.
Railsify 7y ago
As well as many other things, have you heard of Nutella?
- chewz 7y ago
  > have you heard of Nutella? Always wonder who's buying Nutella. Sugar and palmoil.
  - simias 7y ago
    Because if there's one basic nutrition fact we all know, it's that humans aren't attracted to sugar and fat.
  - chrisseaton 7y ago
    You can make any food sound ridiculous by reducing it to its ingredients.
    - 13of40 7y ago
      Not tofu. It's beans.
    - chewz 7y ago
      Nutella started as mix of hazelnuts and chocolate (to save on chocolate in Piedmont Italy) now more then 50% of its content is palmoil and sugar. What happend? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutella https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutella
      - deleted 7y ago
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      - simias 7y ago
        I mean it's not really a big mystery, I'm not sure where this discussion is going. A ton of super popular food is ridiculously unhealthy. Coca Cola is basically super-sweet water. Jams don't usually have added fats but they do have a ton of sugar. Cotton Candy is literally only sugar (and some colorant I suppose). Clearly the incentives here are simple, you want to make a product that people like as much as possible while making it as cheaply as possible. Health is not really a factor, insofar as not too many people don't drop your product because they see it as unhealthy (ads will help with that, all Nutella ads I've seen in France focus on "giving energy to children for their activities" or some bullshit like that). So that's how you end up with something that's mainly palm oil and sugar. The market has spoken. I'm sure that if they reverted back to their original recipe they'd lose a significant amount of clients.
thinkindie 7y ago
unfortunately it's being used in a lot of processed food. Nutella is among the most famous but if you carefully read food labels you'll see being used in a lot of more cases (sometimes it might go under a more generic vegetables fats). In Italy there was a big attempt to steer away from palm oil (at least in words) while in other countries it's not something felt at all: for example I live in Germany where you can hardly see any "palm oil free" ribbon on products.
FlowNote 7y ago
Literal core ingredient of Beyond Meat. Welcome to the meat industry's response to the threat. Most dietary paranoia is driven by political polarization.

It is used as biofuel..

by chewz 7y ago

It is used as biofuel..

Falling3 7y ago

It's also a very common food ingredient.

Symbiote 7y ago
It's about the only thing I look for on the ingredients list. I stopped buying anything containing palm oil a few years ago.
- kawsper 7y ago
  I recently stumbled upon a drone video showing the effect of palm oil: https://youtu.be/7bTbUOI3qko?t=2397 https://youtu.be/7bTbUOI3qko?t=2397 (around the 40 minute mark), just endless seas of palm trees.
  - lonelappde 7y ago
    So, same as every other mass produced commodity?
    - kawsper 7y ago
      Of course, I had just never seen a palm oil plantation before.
  - mopsi 7y ago
    I stopped buying products with palm oil after binging on orangutan rescue videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyvTuvYGPkI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyvTuvYGPkI Before I wasn't aware of its effect on orangutan habitats.

Railsify 7y ago

As well as many other things, have you heard of Nutella?

chewz 7y ago
> have you heard of Nutella? Always wonder who's buying Nutella. Sugar and palmoil.
- simias 7y ago
  Because if there's one basic nutrition fact we all know, it's that humans aren't attracted to sugar and fat.
- chrisseaton 7y ago
  You can make any food sound ridiculous by reducing it to its ingredients.
  - 13of40 7y ago
    Not tofu. It's beans.
  - chewz 7y ago
    Nutella started as mix of hazelnuts and chocolate (to save on chocolate in Piedmont Italy) now more then 50% of its content is palmoil and sugar. What happend? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutella https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutella
    - deleted 7y ago
      [deleted]
    - simias 7y ago
      I mean it's not really a big mystery, I'm not sure where this discussion is going. A ton of super popular food is ridiculously unhealthy. Coca Cola is basically super-sweet water. Jams don't usually have added fats but they do have a ton of sugar. Cotton Candy is literally only sugar (and some colorant I suppose). Clearly the incentives here are simple, you want to make a product that people like as much as possible while making it as cheaply as possible. Health is not really a factor, insofar as not too many people don't drop your product because they see it as unhealthy (ads will help with that, all Nutella ads I've seen in France focus on "giving energy to children for their activities" or some bullshit like that). So that's how you end up with something that's mainly palm oil and sugar. The market has spoken. I'm sure that if they reverted back to their original recipe they'd lose a significant amount of clients.

thinkindie 7y ago

unfortunately it's being used in a lot of processed food. Nutella is among the most famous but if you carefully read food labels you'll see being used in a lot of more cases (sometimes it might go under a more generic vegetables fats). In Italy there was a big attempt to steer away from palm oil (at least in words) while in other countries it's not something felt at all: for example I live in Germany where you can hardly see any "palm oil free" ribbon on products.

FlowNote 7y ago

Literal core ingredient of Beyond Meat. Welcome to the meat industry's response to the threat. Most dietary paranoia is driven by political polarization.