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This is a beautiful example of the importance of diversity on a team. I have no idea how diverse the team is and I am not speaking of racial or sex diversity...

by adim86 7y ago

This is a beautiful example of the importance of diversity on a team. I have no idea how diverse the team is and I am not speaking of racial or sex diversity... this is the core of the discussion, having people with varying life experiences prevent obvious bugs like this or innovative ideas that no one person could think about. This is a fun bug

INTPenis 7y ago
My thinking was rather that they made an assumption. Which is a much simpler explanation because people make faulty assumptions every day. But yeah, diversity would have helped.
- inanepenguin 7y ago
  I believe the first portion of your reply directly supports the original comment here. Everyone's assumptions are based off of their experiences. A diversity of experiences and backgrounds creates an environment where assumptions are challenged more frequently. The more than a team can support their decisions through facts, instead of assumptions, the stronger their solutions will be.
catacombs 7y ago
> I am not speaking of racial or sex diversity I was about to wonder how racial and sex diversity plays into a program running into an infinite loop.
chrstphrknwtn 7y ago
Whilst that’s true, I think it’s also a good example of how shortsighted most attempts at diversity are; in this case a Scandinavian would perhaps have the “diverse experience” to preempt a naïve implementation of a sunrise fiction, however diversity seems to always be about race or sex or identity, which seems to miss the point somewhat. Edit: Which is to say that a male with fair hair and skin and a university education wouldn’t qualify as diverse in most contemporary conceptions of diverse, despite a likely underlying diversity of culture and experience.
- carlmr 7y ago
  Apple's diversity manager said something to that effect, and then she was made to apologize and leave. So, yes, diversity of experience is important, and no, that's not what is accepted as diversity in modern corporate culture. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/17/apples-head-diversity-apologises-saying-group-12-white-men-can/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/17/apples-head-dive...
  - chrstphrknwtn 7y ago
    That episode proves the point I think. It seems to demonstrate perfectly how the only diversity that counts is race and sex. The article literally concludes with a breakdown of Apple’s workforce by ethnicity and sex.

by adim86 7y ago

INTPenis 7y ago

My thinking was rather that they made an assumption. Which is a much simpler explanation because people make faulty assumptions every day. But yeah, diversity would have helped.

inanepenguin 7y ago
I believe the first portion of your reply directly supports the original comment here. Everyone's assumptions are based off of their experiences. A diversity of experiences and backgrounds creates an environment where assumptions are challenged more frequently. The more than a team can support their decisions through facts, instead of assumptions, the stronger their solutions will be.

catacombs 7y ago

> I am not speaking of racial or sex diversity I was about to wonder how racial and sex diversity plays into a program running into an infinite loop.

chrstphrknwtn 7y ago

Whilst that’s true, I think it’s also a good example of how shortsighted most attempts at diversity are; in this case a Scandinavian would perhaps have the “diverse experience” to preempt a naïve implementation of a sunrise fiction, however diversity seems to always be about race or sex or identity, which seems to miss the point somewhat. Edit: Which is to say that a male with fair hair and skin and a university education wouldn’t qualify as diverse in most contemporary conceptions of diverse, despite a likely underlying diversity of culture and experience.

carlmr 7y ago
Apple's diversity manager said something to that effect, and then she was made to apologize and leave. So, yes, diversity of experience is important, and no, that's not what is accepted as diversity in modern corporate culture. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/17/apples-head-diversity-apologises-saying-group-12-white-men-can/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/17/apples-head-dive...
- chrstphrknwtn 7y ago
  That episode proves the point I think. It seems to demonstrate perfectly how the only diversity that counts is race and sex. The article literally concludes with a breakdown of Apple’s workforce by ethnicity and sex.