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From a normal users perspective it didn't seem any more advanced than Ubuntu. Exactly the same but installing software on the command line takes 2 minutes longe

From a normal users perspective it didn't seem any more advanced than Ubuntu. Exactly the same but installing software on the command line takes 2 minutes longer.

sandGorgon 7y ago
that's incorrect. the dependency resolver in dnf is far faster and accurate than ubuntu. Its pretty good computer science reading as well - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Formal_methods_tool_suite#Boolean_Satisfiability_.28SAT.29_Solvers https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Formal_methods_tool_suite#Boo... https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2016/08/30/why-red-hats-new-dnf-package-manager-is-not-just-another-yum-2/ https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2016/08/30/why-red-hats-n... I have done system upgrades since fedora 22 to fedora 30 without breakage. I have never had that happen with Ubuntu. In general, Wayland/Systemd/Xorg etc are maintained by Fedora . If you look at the blog post - https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2019/06/24/on-the-road-to-fedora-workstation-31/ https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2019/06/24/on-the-road-to-fed... >>he reality is that X.org is basically maintained by us and thus once we stop paying attention to it there is unlikely to be any major new releases coming out and there might even be some bitrot setting in over time. We will keep an eye on it as we will want to ensure X.org stays supportable until the end of the RHEL8 lifecycle at a minimum, but let this be a friendly notice for everyone who rely the work we do maintaining the Linux graphics stack, get onto Wayland, that is where the future is.
- dralley 7y ago
  >the dependency resolver in dnf is far faster and accurate than ubuntu As a Fedora user, that's probably true, but that doesn't make DNF itself faster. Actually installing and removing packages tends to be fairly slow. But, it's much better than legacy yum.
  - mmplxx 7y ago
    Yes, the constant refreshing of metadata is very annoying. You can disable it for searches, though. Gnome software sometimes becomes very unresponsive because of this (and because of flatpaks silently downloading a >1GB runtime). Probably a reason while it gets so much FUD.

From a normal users perspective it didn't seem any more advanced than Ubuntu. Exactly the same but installing software on the command line takes 2 minutes longer.

sandGorgon 7y ago

that's incorrect. the dependency resolver in dnf is far faster and accurate than ubuntu. Its pretty good computer science reading as well - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Formal_methods_tool_suite#Boolean_Satisfiability_.28SAT.29_Solvers https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Formal_methods_tool_suite#Boo... https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2016/08/30/why-red-hats-new-dnf-package-manager-is-not-just-another-yum-2/ https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2016/08/30/why-red-hats-n... I have done system upgrades since fedora 22 to fedora 30 without breakage. I have never had that happen with Ubuntu. In general, Wayland/Systemd/Xorg etc are maintained by Fedora . If you look at the blog post - https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2019/06/24/on-the-road-to-fedora-workstation-31/ https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2019/06/24/on-the-road-to-fed... >>he reality is that X.org is basically maintained by us and thus once we stop paying attention to it there is unlikely to be any major new releases coming out and there might even be some bitrot setting in over time. We will keep an eye on it as we will want to ensure X.org stays supportable until the end of the RHEL8 lifecycle at a minimum, but let this be a friendly notice for everyone who rely the work we do maintaining the Linux graphics stack, get onto Wayland, that is where the future is.

dralley 7y ago
>the dependency resolver in dnf is far faster and accurate than ubuntu As a Fedora user, that's probably true, but that doesn't make DNF itself faster. Actually installing and removing packages tends to be fairly slow. But, it's much better than legacy yum.
- mmplxx 7y ago
  Yes, the constant refreshing of metadata is very annoying. You can disable it for searches, though. Gnome software sometimes becomes very unresponsive because of this (and because of flatpaks silently downloading a >1GB runtime). Probably a reason while it gets so much FUD.