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How in the world does one hire $9 an hour software engineers?
by stcredzero 7y ago
How in the world does one hire $9 an hour software engineers?
- EnFinlay 7y agoI'm positive they are more "developer" than "engineer".
- brianwawok 7y agoGo to India?
- tomxor 7y agoThat's usually the case, though in my experience from doing a bunch of re-writes of code outsourced to India - you really do get what you pay for.
- mieseratte 7y agoHad to run an outsourced team out of India a few years back. Had to sign off on the time / pay paperwork. I believe their Senior-level folks were costing us $20 - $25 per hour. Not sure what they made after the agency took their cut. $9 sounds like very Junior-level staffing. As for code quality, this team was working on a Spring / Java application. They were instructed to use Spring JDBC templates instead of Hibernate. So of course they build their own query-builder that was just concatenating strings. Naturally we paid them to clean up their own mess.
- tomxor 7y ago> Naturally we paid them to clean up their own mess. Heh, basically funding external developers too learn without the benefit of retaining them then.
- zaroth 7y ago> Still, for the 787, HCL gave Boeing a remarkable price – free, according to Sam Swaro, an associate vice president who pitched HCL’s services at a San Diego conference sponsored by Avionics International magazine in June. He said the company took no up-front payments on the 787 and only started collecting payments based on sales years later, an “innovative business model” he offered to extend to others in the industry.
- sct202 7y agoHow is that allowed? It is like basically the equivalent of dumping products below market and production price like what China frequently does to steel.
- kevan 7y agoWhy wouldn't this be allowed? This is the company equivalent of a person working on commission vs salary. Salary is more stable and predictable, commission is riskier but has higher potential for upside.
- leetcrew 7y agoit's also the equivalent of what they call "royalties" in the music industry.
- jws 7y agoIt’s more like becoming a partner or working for shares. Rather than getting a fixed price up front you take a (presumably larger) payment at a later date but accept the risk that there may be no payment.
- gorbachev 7y agoYou just described Uber.
- z3t4 7y agoHow common is this, payment based on sales, and years later!? I guess you only do that with established companies? Still seems like a risk.
- Spooky23 7y agoIndia. Billing rate is around $30
- mspnp 7y agoYou think everybody lives in San Francisco?
- rueynshard 7y ago$9 an hour works out to about 100,000 rupees a month, which allows one to live relatively comfortably in India.
- NKosmatos 7y agoWithout wanting to sound disrespectful, most of the engineers outside US and some EU countries, get paid a lot less from what you’re used to and from what you read in major tech sites. I know a lot of good engineers in many countries (Greece, Croatia, south-east EU, India...) that get paid less than 9$/hr (myself included). The bad thing with all the big companies outsourcing positions and working with external partners is that it’s difficult to distinguish the good engineers from the copy-paste developers, self-taught coders and really bad engineers that give some countries a bad name. I have first hand experience of really bad engineers, working for top companies, who get paid low wages and don’t care about the quality of their work. I guess that’s how the system works...
- jacquesm 7y ago> self-taught coders That need not be a disadvantage, I've seen awesome self-taught coders (and really bad ones too).
- xtracto 7y ago9hr = 72 day = 1440 month = $28800 MXN a month. Buys you 1 software engineer between Jr and mid level here in Mexico my