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I live in Venezuela and our internet service is crumbling and censored (Dont fucking vote for communists or populist socialists) I work online so a stable inte

by cptaj 7y ago

I live in Venezuela and our internet service is crumbling and censored (Dont fucking vote for communists or populist socialists) I work online so a stable internet connection is a must. Right now we're surviving with boutique wireless ISPs (not cell, think point to point networks used in rural areas but deployed in the city because you have post-apocalyptic levels of collapse) They buy their uplink from the monopoly government ISP but pay handsomely for priority. I pay $30 a month for a 2mb connection. I would GLADLY pay for Starlink.

nsajko 7y ago
Communism and socialism do not have anything to do with censorship. Edit: I was responding to parent's first sentence, "I live in Venezuela and our internet service is crumbling and censored (Dont fucking vote for communists or populist socialists)". That is like living in Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, etc. (look here if you want more examples: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Internet_Censorship_and_Surveillance_World_Map.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Internet_Censorship_... ), and then blaming Capitalism for the censorhip of the Internet.
- dang 7y ago
  Would you please not take HN threads further into ideological flamewar? It's not what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
idDriven 7y ago
From what I have read it sounded like the US government has been working to undermine Venezuela economically for some time. Socialism was working too well, it brought huge swathes of the population out of poverty. A working less-capitalist model being dangerous to the global status quo, had to go. I'm sorry and I hope it gets better. Here is one article, as a source, its long though. Source: https://nacla.org/news/2018/05/18/united-states%E2%80%99-hand-undermining-democracy-venezuela https://nacla.org/news/2018/05/18/united-states%E2%80%99-han...
- idDriven 7y ago
  Im really impressed at the number of downvotes, despite the lack of subsequent replies. Here's another source: "The first UN rapporteur to visit Venezuela for 21 years has told The Independent the US sanctions on the country are illegal and could amount to “crimes against humanity” under international law. Former special rapporteur Alfred de Zayas, who finished his term at the UN in March, has criticized the US for engaging in “economic warfare” against Venezuela which he said is hurting the economy and killing Venezuelans." Per the Indpendent: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/venezuela-us-sanctions-united-nations-oil-pdvsa-a8748201.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/venezuela-...
  - martythemaniak 7y ago
    You're probably being downvoted without replies because your post of such low quality, it is not worth replying to. "Socialism was working too well, it brought huge swathes of the population out of poverty. A working less-capitalist model being dangerous to the global status quo, had to go." This is ideological drivel so far removed from reality, it's basically trolling.
    - dang 7y ago
      This comment breaks the site guidelines. You have a long history of doing that. We've warned you more than once. Would you please fix this? I don't want to ban you, but if you don't stop doing this, we're going to be forced to. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules from now on, that would be good.
    - idDriven 7y ago
      Thank you for replying. In terms of ideology v reality this would be similar to the ideology that led to the Iran Contra scandal. Source: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/reagan-iran/ https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/reagan-...
  - super-serial 7y ago

by cptaj 7y ago

nsajko 7y ago

Communism and socialism do not have anything to do with censorship. Edit: I was responding to parent's first sentence, "I live in Venezuela and our internet service is crumbling and censored (Dont fucking vote for communists or populist socialists)". That is like living in Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, etc. (look here if you want more examples: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Internet_Censorship_and_Surveillance_World_Map.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Internet_Censorship_... ), and then blaming Capitalism for the censorhip of the Internet.

dang 7y ago
Would you please not take HN threads further into ideological flamewar? It's not what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

idDriven 7y ago

From what I have read it sounded like the US government has been working to undermine Venezuela economically for some time. Socialism was working too well, it brought huge swathes of the population out of poverty. A working less-capitalist model being dangerous to the global status quo, had to go. I'm sorry and I hope it gets better. Here is one article, as a source, its long though. Source: https://nacla.org/news/2018/05/18/united-states%E2%80%99-hand-undermining-democracy-venezuela https://nacla.org/news/2018/05/18/united-states%E2%80%99-han...

idDriven 7y ago
Im really impressed at the number of downvotes, despite the lack of subsequent replies. Here's another source: "The first UN rapporteur to visit Venezuela for 21 years has told The Independent the US sanctions on the country are illegal and could amount to “crimes against humanity” under international law. Former special rapporteur Alfred de Zayas, who finished his term at the UN in March, has criticized the US for engaging in “economic warfare” against Venezuela which he said is hurting the economy and killing Venezuelans." Per the Indpendent: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/venezuela-us-sanctions-united-nations-oil-pdvsa-a8748201.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/venezuela-...
- martythemaniak 7y ago
  You're probably being downvoted without replies because your post of such low quality, it is not worth replying to. "Socialism was working too well, it brought huge swathes of the population out of poverty. A working less-capitalist model being dangerous to the global status quo, had to go." This is ideological drivel so far removed from reality, it's basically trolling.
  - dang 7y ago
    This comment breaks the site guidelines. You have a long history of doing that. We've warned you more than once. Would you please fix this? I don't want to ban you, but if you don't stop doing this, we're going to be forced to. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules from now on, that would be good.
  - idDriven 7y ago
    Thank you for replying. In terms of ideology v reality this would be similar to the ideology that led to the Iran Contra scandal. Source: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/reagan-iran/ https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/reagan-...
- super-serial 7y ago