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Is the socket really zero insertion force? I've always been planning on buying an AMD CPU after dealing with an Intel processor.

by ryacko 7y ago

MrRadar 7y ago
Yes, as long as the pins are properly aligned it should literally drop in.
theandrewbailey 7y ago
Yes. I remember my 1800X making a "thunk" sound[0] when it dropped into the socket. It requires as much insertion force as water into a cup. [0] https://youtu.be/QdNISYm0w-U?t=756 https://youtu.be/QdNISYm0w-U?t=756
- ryacko 7y ago
  If AMD advertised that their CPUs can be installed gingerly as opposed to Intel which felt like thirty pounds of pressure was required, then I would have opted for the older, but AMD chip. Had a false impression from all the PC part guides that somehow each were equal difficulty.
  - theandrewbailey 7y ago
    Most AMD heatsinks use a clip retention mechanism, which definitely require significant force. Aside: at least new CPUs have heatspreaders. The first heatsink I installed was on an Athlon XP 2500+. Those things had the bare die exposed! Do it wrong the first time, and you had an expensive tiny brick.
    - Nexxxeh 7y ago
      Retro tip - copper shim.
  - toast0 7y ago
    I've installed a couple of the Intel LGA CPUs, and I don't remember there being that much force required to put the lever down; although it's a bit less comfortable than the traditional ZIF. Speculation is that ZIF sockets are harder to ruin in manufacturing and shipping than all the pins in LGA sockets, allowing AMD to have more confidence in the supply chain. For higher end chips, like ThreadRipper and Epyc, AMD uses LGA like Intel -- the pin count is too high not to.
bitwize 7y ago
Yes. Typically you lift the lever on the side of the socket, drop the CPU in, and then lower the lever. The lever causes the holes in the socket to tighten, clamping down on the pins in the chip, holding it in place. ZIF sockets have been a part of PC builds and a feature of motherboards since at least the early-mid 90s.
numpad0 7y ago
Can’t recall a CPU socket that isn’t lever locked ZIF since Coppermine...
VectorLock 7y ago
Do the Ryzen CPUs actually have pins?
- dave7 7y ago
  Yes.

Is the socket really zero insertion force? I've always been planning on buying an AMD CPU after dealing with an Intel processor.

by ryacko 7y ago

Is the socket really zero insertion force? I've always been planning on buying an AMD CPU after dealing with an Intel processor.

MrRadar 7y ago

Yes, as long as the pins are properly aligned it should literally drop in.

theandrewbailey 7y ago

Yes. I remember my 1800X making a "thunk" sound[0] when it dropped into the socket. It requires as much insertion force as water into a cup. [0] https://youtu.be/QdNISYm0w-U?t=756 https://youtu.be/QdNISYm0w-U?t=756

ryacko 7y ago
If AMD advertised that their CPUs can be installed gingerly as opposed to Intel which felt like thirty pounds of pressure was required, then I would have opted for the older, but AMD chip. Had a false impression from all the PC part guides that somehow each were equal difficulty.
- theandrewbailey 7y ago
  Most AMD heatsinks use a clip retention mechanism, which definitely require significant force. Aside: at least new CPUs have heatspreaders. The first heatsink I installed was on an Athlon XP 2500+. Those things had the bare die exposed! Do it wrong the first time, and you had an expensive tiny brick.
  - Nexxxeh 7y ago
    Retro tip - copper shim.
- toast0 7y ago
  I've installed a couple of the Intel LGA CPUs, and I don't remember there being that much force required to put the lever down; although it's a bit less comfortable than the traditional ZIF. Speculation is that ZIF sockets are harder to ruin in manufacturing and shipping than all the pins in LGA sockets, allowing AMD to have more confidence in the supply chain. For higher end chips, like ThreadRipper and Epyc, AMD uses LGA like Intel -- the pin count is too high not to.

bitwize 7y ago

Yes. Typically you lift the lever on the side of the socket, drop the CPU in, and then lower the lever. The lever causes the holes in the socket to tighten, clamping down on the pins in the chip, holding it in place. ZIF sockets have been a part of PC builds and a feature of motherboards since at least the early-mid 90s.

numpad0 7y ago

Can’t recall a CPU socket that isn’t lever locked ZIF since Coppermine...

VectorLock 7y ago

Do the Ryzen CPUs actually have pins?

dave7 7y ago
Yes.