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Does Apple attempt to infiltrate Cellebrite with secret agents so that whatever flaws they're exploiting can be identified and fixed?

• coldcode 7y ago
  I guarantee Apple has access to these as soon as they appear. I also have doubts that their claims are true, since we cannot verify that it in any way.
  • SigmundA 7y ago
    Apple uses Cellebrite in their stores to help transfer phones and recover them: https://twitter.com/antisocial_eng/status/1086301416157790208 https://twitter.com/antisocial_eng/status/108630141615779020...
• gojomo 7y ago
  Are you sure Apple really wants them fixed ASAP? Having these outside, ostensibly-unaffiliated teams provide law enforcement with access helps prevent government/legal pressure on Apple to explicitly backdoor their systems. The ideal bit of kabuki-theater for Apple would be for Apple to always maintain a public stance of total devotion to end-user security... while reliably letting enough subtle, hard-to-find flaws linger so that a few of the most-well-resourced government-friendly agencies can run a business like this. "Everybody" wins! Indeed, I'd expect it more likely that Cellebrite & their ilk infiltrate Apple with secret agents, or in other ways obtain Apple-proprietary information, to assist their tool-building. Forbes has reported that a competitor to Cellebrite, Grayshift, includes at least one ex-Apple security engineer among its "Principals": https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2018/03/05/apple-iphone-x-graykey-hack/#6128308c2950 https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2018/03/05/apple...