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A couple counterarguments: (1) "No way with the cables included in the box" is not the same as "no way." There's a USB-C to Lightning cable in the bag right ne
by chipotle_coyote 7y ago
A couple counterarguments:
(1) "No way with the cables included in the box" is not the same as "no way." There's a USB-C to Lightning cable in the bag right next to me. That lets me plug a top of the line Apple laptop into a top of the line Apple phone. With no dongle, even.
(2) In practice, there are zero times over the last two years that I've had to plug a phone into a laptop. I can't honestly remember why I bought this cable; I think I wanted to see whether USB tethering to the phone was better than using the mobile hotspot feature (spoiler: kind of a wash). I am sure there are people reading this, possibly including you, raising their fists to the sky and screaming BUT IT IS THE PRINCIPLE OF THE MATTER, and, sure, okay, I guess. But is it?
One can make that argument that Apple should include both cables in the boxes, or a USB-A to USB-C dongle, or something. But in practice, just how many people need the USB-C cable for their phone, even if they have a USB-C laptop? The vast majority of people are probably only using Lightning cables to charge their phone from a charger, in which case it doesn't matter, or to plug into their car, which means they need USB-A anyway. (People may also be using Lightning-to-not-USB dongles, like headphone ports and HDMI output, but that's irrelevant to this.)
- Phlarp 7y agoAlmost everyone's complaints are resolved by changing lightning ports to USB-C. Obviously it will take time for that change to make it into the next hardware refresh of the mouse/keyboard/trackpad but it should have been on the iPhone two years ago.
- rhacker 7y agoThe people waving fists aren't doing it for "PRINCIPLE OF THE MATTER". They are literally forced to use extra dongles and components for THEIR workflow. Here's my reason: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Headset-H390-Noise-Cancelling/dp/B000UXZQ42/ref=sr_1_4 https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Headset-H390-Noise-Cancellin... I can't find any replacements. Anyone on my team that tries whatever bluetooth whatever, they always sound distant or scratchy just plain lagged. On the other hand they keep asking me to tell them what I use because I always sound crystal clear with no background noise. I send them that link and immediately dismiss it because it's cheap, uses a stupid USB connector and their laptop doesn't support the plug without dongles. (I use a 2014 MBP) Yet they keep complimenting me, like literally every call on how good I sound to them. I don't care if they found a $200 lightning plug version with large ear cups - they don't sound like I do.
- chipotle_coyote 7y agoI'm not sure if you're the one who downvoted me, but dude, the "workflow" that I was responding to was not YOUR workflow, was it? I was specifically responding to someone who said there was "no way" to connect an iPhone to a USB-C MacBook, pointing out they were just flat-out wrong. You can make that connection very easily, with no dongles involved. I'm sorry if you thought I was making some blanket statement that all workflows are absolutely wonderful under all circumstances on laptops that have moved to USB-C, but I also don't think that would be a remotely fair reading of what I wrote.