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Sorry but this is simply wrong. Europe is well aware of this problem too and there is support for Trumps war with china far into the EU. China doesn't protect

Sorry but this is simply wrong. Europe is well aware of this problem too and there is support for Trumps war with china far into the EU. China doesn't protect IP exactly because of the way they operate. Why do you think they don't want to enforce IP rights in China?

DiogenesKynikos 7y ago
What, precisely, is wrong? It is simply a fact that American brands are omnipresent in China. It's a very striking thing if you go to any big Chinese city - how many Western restaurants, hotels, clothing brands, automobile brands and technology brands are everywhere. The idea that China doesn't protect IP is a cliché one hears in the West, but it's not accurate. Developing countries generally have much weaker IP enforcement than developed countries. But as far as developing countries go, my understanding is that China actually has pretty strong IP enforcement now. There have been massive changes to the Chinese legal and regulatory system as part of its entry into the WTO, but a country that had a GDP/capita of just hundreds of dollars a generation ago is not going to become Western Europe overnight.
- ThomPete 7y ago
  You are missing the point here. Big brands are part of the problem here, they are the ones who got acces to chinese markets by offering jobs. We are talking about normal companies not just big brands that get things produced in china. I would urge you to study the subject a little more, you will be surprised how much of what you think is simply wrong.
  - DiogenesKynikos 7y ago
    Be concrete about what you're claiming. You've granted that big American brands have access to the Chinese market (and I'd add that their sales there are very significant and have been increasing rapidly as Chinese consumer spending has grown). Now you're claiming that somehow, "normal" American companies are being blocked from the Chinese market. What are these "normal" American companies? How, precisely, is China blocking them from doing business?

DiogenesKynikos 7y ago

What, precisely, is wrong? It is simply a fact that American brands are omnipresent in China. It's a very striking thing if you go to any big Chinese city - how many Western restaurants, hotels, clothing brands, automobile brands and technology brands are everywhere. The idea that China doesn't protect IP is a cliché one hears in the West, but it's not accurate. Developing countries generally have much weaker IP enforcement than developed countries. But as far as developing countries go, my understanding is that China actually has pretty strong IP enforcement now. There have been massive changes to the Chinese legal and regulatory system as part of its entry into the WTO, but a country that had a GDP/capita of just hundreds of dollars a generation ago is not going to become Western Europe overnight.

ThomPete 7y ago
You are missing the point here. Big brands are part of the problem here, they are the ones who got acces to chinese markets by offering jobs. We are talking about normal companies not just big brands that get things produced in china. I would urge you to study the subject a little more, you will be surprised how much of what you think is simply wrong.
- DiogenesKynikos 7y ago
  Be concrete about what you're claiming. You've granted that big American brands have access to the Chinese market (and I'd add that their sales there are very significant and have been increasing rapidly as Chinese consumer spending has grown). Now you're claiming that somehow, "normal" American companies are being blocked from the Chinese market. What are these "normal" American companies? How, precisely, is China blocking them from doing business?