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> Macbook Pros have passed their peak As someone who has used a number of Mac(book)s for years, I agree with this general (or a vocal minority's) consensus. I

> Macbook Pros have passed their peak As someone who has used a number of Mac(book)s for years, I agree with this general (or a vocal minority's) consensus. It's a beautiful machine: great OS, hardware integration is (mostly) top notch, and a lot of pro-grade hard/software for multimedia production are only available on the Mac. And yet, the 2013 Macbook Pro (maxed out beyond recommended specs) is the last Apple-built computer I will buy. I recently built myself a PC that dual-boots macOS and Linux, and am looking at Thinkpads for my next laptop. I don't know if "the tide" is moving to Linux, but at least I am, and being the most computer-savvy person in my social circle, I'm recommending everyone I know to not buy a Mac/book. It's probably the best computer in the market for that form factor, but the company has given the users too many reasons to move away.

TallGuyShort 7y ago
Totally tangential rant here, but when I've had family or close friends (the kind who would come to me for free tech support and who I would generally indulge) ask me for recommendations, I've told them that I don't know Mac products well enough to recommend / recommend against them, but that if they get iOS or Macs, I simply won't be in a position to help them. Almost invariably they get the Apple device, need help, can't get it from Apple, and come back to me. Can't stand it. And if I ever have a glitch they'll say, "but Apple stuff just works..."
- rbritton 7y ago
  The only difference when they do choose the products you recommend (in my case it is Apple), they come to you first before even trying the manufacturer's support.
  - TallGuyShort 7y ago
    I don't mind that - I can almost always fix an Android or PC glitch myself. It's the look of disbelief when I tell them I have no idea if their iPad is supposed to do that or not, followed by, "but you're a techy person".
asark 7y ago
They need to fix a few things (mostly on the Macbook Pro) and drop their prices somewhat, which isn't a crazy thing to hope for since they did it pretty often not that long ago, sometimes even while announcing an upgrade. I still think their iOS device prices are fairly decent for what you get, but their Mac hardware pricing's gone way out of wack in the last 3ish years.
freehunter 7y ago
>2013 Macbook Pro is the last Apple-built computer I will buy I had a 2013 and a 2015 at the same time (one for work, one personal) and the only difference was the Force Touch trackpad on the 2015. After using the 2013 for a while, I noticed my finger being sore, and I trace it back to trying to click anywhere (like the top of the trackpad) on the 2013 like I could on the 2015. It wouldn't work, so I'd push harder and end up hurting my finger. Long story short, I'd much rather have a 2015 MBP than a 2013.
- gurkendoktor 7y ago
  MacBook models until around 2009 had a physical button at the bottom of their trackpads. Imagine that it's still there -- use your thumb to click, and your fingers for everything else. I'm pretty sure that's what Apple intended users to do (until they made tap-to-click the default recently).

TallGuyShort 7y ago

Totally tangential rant here, but when I've had family or close friends (the kind who would come to me for free tech support and who I would generally indulge) ask me for recommendations, I've told them that I don't know Mac products well enough to recommend / recommend against them, but that if they get iOS or Macs, I simply won't be in a position to help them. Almost invariably they get the Apple device, need help, can't get it from Apple, and come back to me. Can't stand it. And if I ever have a glitch they'll say, "but Apple stuff just works..."

rbritton 7y ago
The only difference when they do choose the products you recommend (in my case it is Apple), they come to you first before even trying the manufacturer's support.
- TallGuyShort 7y ago
  I don't mind that - I can almost always fix an Android or PC glitch myself. It's the look of disbelief when I tell them I have no idea if their iPad is supposed to do that or not, followed by, "but you're a techy person".

asark 7y ago

They need to fix a few things (mostly on the Macbook Pro) and drop their prices somewhat, which isn't a crazy thing to hope for since they did it pretty often not that long ago, sometimes even while announcing an upgrade. I still think their iOS device prices are fairly decent for what you get, but their Mac hardware pricing's gone way out of wack in the last 3ish years.

freehunter 7y ago

>2013 Macbook Pro is the last Apple-built computer I will buy I had a 2013 and a 2015 at the same time (one for work, one personal) and the only difference was the Force Touch trackpad on the 2015. After using the 2013 for a while, I noticed my finger being sore, and I trace it back to trying to click anywhere (like the top of the trackpad) on the 2013 like I could on the 2015. It wouldn't work, so I'd push harder and end up hurting my finger. Long story short, I'd much rather have a 2015 MBP than a 2013.

gurkendoktor 7y ago
MacBook models until around 2009 had a physical button at the bottom of their trackpads. Imagine that it's still there -- use your thumb to click, and your fingers for everything else. I'm pretty sure that's what Apple intended users to do (until they made tap-to-click the default recently).