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To put the markup into more concrete terms, here's a sample Windows laptop I quickly found around $1000 (the Prime price, normal price is apparently $1400). [0]

To put the markup into more concrete terms, here's a sample Windows laptop I quickly found around $1000 (the Prime price, normal price is apparently $1400). [0] I'll compare it to the cheapest MBP at $1300. [1] I wish HN markdown had tables. 15.6" 3840 x 2160 vs 13.3" 2560x1600 i7-7700 vs unspecified i5 16GB RAM vs 8GB RAM GTX 1050 vs Intel Iris Plus Graphics 640 256GB SSD+1TB HDD vs 256GB SSD ($800 upcharge for a 1TB SSD on the MBP when in reality a 1TB SSD costs $100) Numpad and usb-A ports, HDMI vs no numpad and usb-c only (no ethernet on either but I didn't look very hard to find this listing) And some have an affinity for Mac OS (I don't understand it at all) but on the Windows one you'll be able to easily run any game you want and have a much broader software catalog to choose from in general. 0: https://www.amazon.com/VivoBook-Touchscreen-i7-7700HQ-GeForce-Essentials/dp/B077X9D48G https://www.amazon.com/VivoBook-Touchscreen-i7-7700HQ-GeForc... 1: https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/13-inch-space-gray-2.3ghz-dual-core-processor-with-turbo-boost-up-to-3.6ghz-128gb https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/13-inch-space...

abacadaba 7y ago
> on the Windows one you'll be able to easily run any game you want and have a much broader software catalog to choose from in general. The main difference is that macOSX for the most part isn't adware. I still prefer MATE but if linux not your thing for some silly reason it's really the only other viable option. Edit: Also that laptop is 2lbs heavier than the 13 inch and 1lb heavier than the 15. Not that I'd buy a 15 in. mbp with my own money in any case but they are nice.
- jimmaswell 7y ago
  What do you mean, like OSX doesn't show you ads natively? Nothing comparable to seeing app suggestions in the Windows store tiles? Nothing Windows 10 has done to me so far has bothered me. Candy Crush ad in the games tiles in the start menu doesn't bother me. Unless you mean susceptibility to malware. There's definitely malware that gets onto OSX and it can be harder to remove than on Windows.
  - abacadaba 7y ago
    > Candy Crush ad in the games tiles in the start menu doesn't bother me. this is where we differ.

abacadaba 7y ago

> on the Windows one you'll be able to easily run any game you want and have a much broader software catalog to choose from in general. The main difference is that macOSX for the most part isn't adware. I still prefer MATE but if linux not your thing for some silly reason it's really the only other viable option. Edit: Also that laptop is 2lbs heavier than the 13 inch and 1lb heavier than the 15. Not that I'd buy a 15 in. mbp with my own money in any case but they are nice.

jimmaswell 7y ago
What do you mean, like OSX doesn't show you ads natively? Nothing comparable to seeing app suggestions in the Windows store tiles? Nothing Windows 10 has done to me so far has bothered me. Candy Crush ad in the games tiles in the start menu doesn't bother me. Unless you mean susceptibility to malware. There's definitely malware that gets onto OSX and it can be harder to remove than on Windows.
- abacadaba 7y ago
  > Candy Crush ad in the games tiles in the start menu doesn't bother me. this is where we differ.