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Are we in China? Its always about terrorism, but NSA/FBI/CIA/3-LETTER-AGENCY fails to do anything when there is terrorism or about to be. They have allowed thin
by sarcasmatwork 7y ago
Are we in China? Its always about terrorism, but NSA/FBI/CIA/3-LETTER-AGENCY fails to do anything when there is terrorism or about to be. They have allowed things to happen. This should fall under the 4A for those of us in America imho.
- chatmasta 7y agoThere is also a 2A argument if encryption algorithms are classified as munitions.
- sib 7y agoWhich, I believe, is how the previous long-term ban on exporting of crypto was justified (ITAR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_...)
- dx87 7y agoIntel is a thankless job; if you keep people safe, nobody knows you are doing anything, but if something happens, you're the first to get blamed. Just because you're ignorant about what people working in various intelligence agencies are doing, doesn't mean they aren't doing anything. I worked in various intel fields for most of my adult life, and it gets tiring to hear that intel agencies don't do anything.
- dv_dt 7y agoThat isn't blaming the Intel agencies for doing nothing, it's blaming them for abridging our freedoms in trade for purported safety.
- ativzzz 7y agoIsn't this analogous to IT security policies in pretty much any company? They get blamed for abridging worker productivity in trade for purported safety.
- darkpuma 7y agoWhat concerns me is not when you and your peers are doing nothing, but when you are doing something.
- ativzzz 7y agoSounds similar to IT. If it works, nobody knows you are doing anything, but if something happens, you're the first to get blamed.
- JudgeWapner 7y agoit gets tiring hearing that you're violating the constitution, spying on girlfriends, or making insider trading tips using your military-grade equipment, but then someone calls you regarding a deranged Florida teenager with a rifle and nobody stops him.
- vangelis 7y agoIntel seem to generate its own trouble. For every real terrorist there's ten autistic teenagers talked into it.
- emilfihlman 7y agoYes, quite a lot actually. While federal level treatment isn't at China level, you can receive exactly similar treatment just from any local jurisdiction.
- dv_dt 7y agoSelected people get pretty horrific federal treatment, and there are poor checks on the selection process.
- wil421 7y agoHow would you even prove or disprove if something a 3 letter agency did stopped a future attack? What if it stopped the next 9/11? What if it didn’t do anything at all? How are you so certain of anything? I’m skeptical of everything. Read, verify, read counter arguments, formulate an opinion.
- mrep 7y agoThe liquid airline bombers were stopped [0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_transatlantic_aircraft_plot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_transatlantic_aircraft_pl...
- magduf 7y agoAccording to my cursory reading of your link, that plot was discovered by the UK police, not any of the intel agencies. Maybe the intel agencies should publicize their accomplishments more if they want a better reputation. 10+ years after some terrorist plot is foiled should be enough time for it to be safe to let the public know.