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I think it's worth noting that many of the vehicles, ships, airplanes used now by the US military were designed in the 80s, and the last thing on the mind of th

I think it's worth noting that many of the vehicles, ships, airplanes used now by the US military were designed in the 80s, and the last thing on the mind of the engineers were carbon emissions. Hopefully, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman etc. start thinking about this stuff in the future. Interestingly at one point, the US Navy wanted to go all nuclear. That would have helped carbon emissions. https://www.wearethemighty.com/gear-tech/navy-nuclear-power-cruiser-destroyer?rebelltitem=4#rebelltitem4 https://www.wearethemighty.com/gear-tech/navy-nuclear-power-...

ryantgtg 7y ago
There are also some extreme double standards within these organizations. On the one hand, the Navy has ambitious and impressive sustainability goals. And on the other hand, the Navy reportedly (I've heard this anecdotally from friends in the Navy) straight up dumps all the trash from their air craft carriers and ships into the ocean. Also anecdotally - but maybe someone with closer knowledge can corroborate - army divisions (?) want to maintain their budgets from cycle to cycle, and to do so they need to prove that they _need_ that money. I have heard that the Air Force, as an example, will rapidly spend down their budgets at the end of a budget cycle by dropping jet fuel and firing off missiles willy nilly.
- 0xffff2 7y ago
  >Also anecdotally - but maybe someone with closer knowledge can corroborate - army divisions (?) want to maintain their budgets from cycle to cycle, and to do so they need to prove that they _need_ that money. I have heard that the Air Force, as an example, will rapidly spend down their budgets at the end of a budget cycle by dropping jet fuel and firing off missiles willy nilly. This is true for all large organizations in existence, both on the military and civilian sides of government and in large corporations.

ryantgtg 7y ago

There are also some extreme double standards within these organizations. On the one hand, the Navy has ambitious and impressive sustainability goals. And on the other hand, the Navy reportedly (I've heard this anecdotally from friends in the Navy) straight up dumps all the trash from their air craft carriers and ships into the ocean. Also anecdotally - but maybe someone with closer knowledge can corroborate - army divisions (?) want to maintain their budgets from cycle to cycle, and to do so they need to prove that they _need_ that money. I have heard that the Air Force, as an example, will rapidly spend down their budgets at the end of a budget cycle by dropping jet fuel and firing off missiles willy nilly.

0xffff2 7y ago
>Also anecdotally - but maybe someone with closer knowledge can corroborate - army divisions (?) want to maintain their budgets from cycle to cycle, and to do so they need to prove that they _need_ that money. I have heard that the Air Force, as an example, will rapidly spend down their budgets at the end of a budget cycle by dropping jet fuel and firing off missiles willy nilly. This is true for all large organizations in existence, both on the military and civilian sides of government and in large corporations.