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I think you are living inside a big bubble. When was the last time China showed military aggresion outside its borders, especialy on the other side of the world

by ssijak 7y ago

I think you are living inside a big bubble. When was the last time China showed military aggresion outside its borders, especialy on the other side of the world? US doing the “checking” around the world left countless people dead for nothing, and a lot of countries ruined. Not to mention trillions od dollars spent on financing that. US complain about Russia meddling with US elections (through 150k worth of Facebook ads lol) but then proceeds to overturn number of democratically elected governments around the world. Hipocracry much?

spoovy 7y ago
China is constantly showing aggression in the South China sea, outside of it's borders. Amazing how people can post with such confidence on something they clearly know literally nothing about.
griffinkelly 7y ago
China is showing force against Taiwan: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3004049/taiwan-blasts-china-reckless-and-provocative-fighter-jet https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3004049/tai... China is building islands all around the South China Sea: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2133483/china-has-built-seven-new-military-bases-south-china https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/21... China now has a presence in Africa too: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/africa/pentagon-accuses-chinese-blinding-djibouti-based-u-s-pilots-lasers-n871096 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/africa/pentagon-accuses-chinese...
- saiya-jin 7y ago
  First 2 items are about their borders - not that I agree with the actions, but these are completely understandable. The Africa still isn't a proper comparison - building few bases where you invest tons of money and extract crutial resources isn't the point here, bloody invasions that destroy whole region for generations and kill millions innocent are. And this is something specific to US, even Russia didn't do anything comparable. Anything after WWII, maybe but just maybe including Korea is actively adding evil to this world. But I suspect not many americans are willing to accept truth here
  - mc32 7y ago
    Soviet Russia annexing the Baltics and setting up Eastern Europe and Central Asia as client states as well as destabilization in South East Asia, Africa, Latin America & Caribbean you say is in no way similar? Ok!
  - griffinkelly 7y ago
    Ask anyone in Taiwan, they’d have a strong difference of opinion on Taiwan being apart of any piece of China, or within the borders. As for countries being militarily aggressive, and causing direct conflict since WW2, sure the US, but there have been numerous wars since. A few at the top of mind —-First Afghanistan War ( Russia), Battle of Falkland Islands (Argentina), Iran vs Iraq War
tim333 7y ago
Spring / summer 2019 I'd say: >In March, Hanoi lodged a protest with Beijing after a Vietnamese fishing vessel crashed and sank after it was chased by a Chinese maritime surveillance vessel in disputed waters. https://www.inkstonenews.com/politics/once-bitter-rivals-us-and-vietnam-are-now-united-against-china/article/3015156 https://www.inkstonenews.com/politics/once-bitter-rivals-us-...
- ssijak 7y ago
  You are comparing one vessel incident in the disputtes waters close to China to countless wars US initiated? I mean you cant be serious. Or if you want to compare incidents... Let me give you just one because Iran is in the news lately. What did the commander of USS Vincennes that downed civilian plane Iran Air Flight 655 killing 290 people including 66 children in 1988 got as punishment? He got Legion of Merit “for exceptionally meritious conduct in the performance of outstanding service as commanding officer...” and the air-warfare coordinator for that day got Navy Commendation Medal. That is just one out of countless exampless..
  - tim333 7y ago
    No I wasn't comparing them, just pointing out China is active in military aggression trying to grab areas of Vietnam and the Philippine's territories that it feels it should have.
djohnston 7y ago
walked right into that one huh?
Retra 7y ago
The vast majority of human behavior is hypocrisy if you discard all context and justification for what people do.
gravy 7y ago
I think a) we may have different definitions of "military aggression" and b) China and the US have different "priorities" when it comes to the military.

by ssijak 7y ago

spoovy 7y ago

China is constantly showing aggression in the South China sea, outside of it's borders. Amazing how people can post with such confidence on something they clearly know literally nothing about.

griffinkelly 7y ago

China is showing force against Taiwan: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3004049/taiwan-blasts-china-reckless-and-provocative-fighter-jet https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3004049/tai... China is building islands all around the South China Sea: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2133483/china-has-built-seven-new-military-bases-south-china https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/21... China now has a presence in Africa too: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/africa/pentagon-accuses-chinese-blinding-djibouti-based-u-s-pilots-lasers-n871096 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/africa/pentagon-accuses-chinese...

saiya-jin 7y ago
First 2 items are about their borders - not that I agree with the actions, but these are completely understandable. The Africa still isn't a proper comparison - building few bases where you invest tons of money and extract crutial resources isn't the point here, bloody invasions that destroy whole region for generations and kill millions innocent are. And this is something specific to US, even Russia didn't do anything comparable. Anything after WWII, maybe but just maybe including Korea is actively adding evil to this world. But I suspect not many americans are willing to accept truth here
- mc32 7y ago
  Soviet Russia annexing the Baltics and setting up Eastern Europe and Central Asia as client states as well as destabilization in South East Asia, Africa, Latin America & Caribbean you say is in no way similar? Ok!
- griffinkelly 7y ago
  Ask anyone in Taiwan, they’d have a strong difference of opinion on Taiwan being apart of any piece of China, or within the borders. As for countries being militarily aggressive, and causing direct conflict since WW2, sure the US, but there have been numerous wars since. A few at the top of mind —-First Afghanistan War ( Russia), Battle of Falkland Islands (Argentina), Iran vs Iraq War

tim333 7y ago

Spring / summer 2019 I'd say: >In March, Hanoi lodged a protest with Beijing after a Vietnamese fishing vessel crashed and sank after it was chased by a Chinese maritime surveillance vessel in disputed waters. https://www.inkstonenews.com/politics/once-bitter-rivals-us-and-vietnam-are-now-united-against-china/article/3015156 https://www.inkstonenews.com/politics/once-bitter-rivals-us-...

ssijak 7y ago
You are comparing one vessel incident in the disputtes waters close to China to countless wars US initiated? I mean you cant be serious. Or if you want to compare incidents... Let me give you just one because Iran is in the news lately. What did the commander of USS Vincennes that downed civilian plane Iran Air Flight 655 killing 290 people including 66 children in 1988 got as punishment? He got Legion of Merit “for exceptionally meritious conduct in the performance of outstanding service as commanding officer...” and the air-warfare coordinator for that day got Navy Commendation Medal. That is just one out of countless exampless..
- tim333 7y ago
  No I wasn't comparing them, just pointing out China is active in military aggression trying to grab areas of Vietnam and the Philippine's territories that it feels it should have.

djohnston 7y ago

walked right into that one huh?

Retra 7y ago

The vast majority of human behavior is hypocrisy if you discard all context and justification for what people do.

gravy 7y ago

I think a) we may have different definitions of "military aggression" and b) China and the US have different "priorities" when it comes to the military.