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> The author also omitted that China has no bleeding edge foundries (like TSMC & Samsung's 7nm fabs) Is that supposed to make Americans feel any better? :) Ser

by rb808 7y ago

> The author also omitted that China has no bleeding edge foundries (like TSMC & Samsung's 7nm fabs) Is that supposed to make Americans feel any better? :) Seriously the Chinese government still thinks of Taiwan (and on a bad day Korea) as one of its provinces and given its location it could easily become one again.

ajross 7y ago
So the reason China might win the trade war is that... they'll just start a world war? That seems a little out of scope. Yes, they might invade Taiwan. That would be rather worse for everyone than if they won/lost the race for CPU dominance.
- ggg2 7y ago
  russia solved their oil supply problem anexing a neighboring country and no sign of a world war. why do you think china anexing taiwan would start one (also, remember china already sent a column of tanks there one nigth and again, nothing happened with the world) International apathy is at an all time high, thanks to most countries dealing with internal political issues (which in most cases involve rigth wing groups and fake news)
  - yorwba 7y ago
    > remember china already sent a column of tanks there one nigth Taiwan is an island. Sending a column of tanks there isn't something the PLA could just do overnight. They'd need to get a warship past Taiwan's naval and aerial defenses in the first place before they could even think of invading with tanks.
- jjoonathan 7y ago
  It doesn't need to happen in a day. China has a gigantic spatial advantage here, and as their navy gets stronger and ours doesn't (or, worse, gets cannibalized and weakens), influence shifts. It's a good bet that as this trend continues Taiwan's choices will align more and more with Chinese interests and less and less with US interests.
  - ajross 7y ago
    And again I repeat: if you want to talk about radical changes to global geopolitical balance, you're talking about a rather different subject than "Can China Make a Good CPU?". Yeah yeah, sure, it could happen. And if it did the last thing any of us would be concerned about is whether or not AMD shared innapropriate technology.
    - jjoonathan 7y ago
      It's a small battle in a large war. That doesn't justify being dismissive, especially when there are so many like it.
- rb808 7y ago
  What I really meant was. Yes, China doesn't have any leading edge foundries. But neither does the USA.
- fspeech 7y ago
  He is just saying that Chinese dependence on Taiwan for cutting edge semiconductor manufacturing is not that big a vulnerability. Even disregarding economic self interests, cutting China off carries huge political risk for Taiwan. You don’t need to bring in world war to see his point.
- JetSpiegel 7y ago
  They don't need to invade Taiwan as you can see by Honk Kong. Just wait for the Americans to run out of cash to pay for the aircraft carriers around it...

by rb808 7y ago

ajross 7y ago

So the reason China might win the trade war is that... they'll just start a world war? That seems a little out of scope. Yes, they might invade Taiwan. That would be rather worse for everyone than if they won/lost the race for CPU dominance.

ggg2 7y ago
russia solved their oil supply problem anexing a neighboring country and no sign of a world war. why do you think china anexing taiwan would start one (also, remember china already sent a column of tanks there one nigth and again, nothing happened with the world) International apathy is at an all time high, thanks to most countries dealing with internal political issues (which in most cases involve rigth wing groups and fake news)
- yorwba 7y ago
  > remember china already sent a column of tanks there one nigth Taiwan is an island. Sending a column of tanks there isn't something the PLA could just do overnight. They'd need to get a warship past Taiwan's naval and aerial defenses in the first place before they could even think of invading with tanks.
jjoonathan 7y ago
It doesn't need to happen in a day. China has a gigantic spatial advantage here, and as their navy gets stronger and ours doesn't (or, worse, gets cannibalized and weakens), influence shifts. It's a good bet that as this trend continues Taiwan's choices will align more and more with Chinese interests and less and less with US interests.
- ajross 7y ago
  And again I repeat: if you want to talk about radical changes to global geopolitical balance, you're talking about a rather different subject than "Can China Make a Good CPU?". Yeah yeah, sure, it could happen. And if it did the last thing any of us would be concerned about is whether or not AMD shared innapropriate technology.
  - jjoonathan 7y ago
    It's a small battle in a large war. That doesn't justify being dismissive, especially when there are so many like it.
rb808 7y ago
What I really meant was. Yes, China doesn't have any leading edge foundries. But neither does the USA.
fspeech 7y ago
He is just saying that Chinese dependence on Taiwan for cutting edge semiconductor manufacturing is not that big a vulnerability. Even disregarding economic self interests, cutting China off carries huge political risk for Taiwan. You don’t need to bring in world war to see his point.
JetSpiegel 7y ago
They don't need to invade Taiwan as you can see by Honk Kong. Just wait for the Americans to run out of cash to pay for the aircraft carriers around it...