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This is a touchy subject because it gets into the realm of the people are not the regime. Its terrible that everyone gets wrapped up in international conflicts,

This is a touchy subject because it gets into the realm of the people are not the regime. Its terrible that everyone gets wrapped up in international conflicts, but I always have to ask what is an alternative plan? In the case with China, no amount of diplomacy would have worked to get them to renegotiate on trade. I'm not sure about other posters on HN, but I know I personally am strongly for stopping nuclear proliferation around the world and it doesn't end with Iran. I want to see India and Pakistan give up their weapons because the doomsday clock there always seems its a minute to midnight. Its a tough, controversial subject and I feel for innocent people caught in the crosshairs.

arjmandi 7y ago
That's the dream, all we need right now is support from the tech community to come to an agreement for opening new windows for innocent people who have contributed a lot to science, tech, art and culture of the entire world. They can make a change, a real difference
dingoegret 7y ago
You'll never get them to give it up. The US and China are major threats and the actions of those two powers have bolstered not diminished the idea that countries need nuclear deterrent. If the US wants to change things, it must change it's behavior.
miracle2k 7y ago
Then you should know that the people who wanted the US to drop the Non-Proliferation deal with Iran known as the JCPOA did so because they are willing to put geopolitical considerations, specifically alignment with Israel and Saudi Arabia, before proliferation concerns. To put it another way, if the had to choose, they would choose a weak isolated Iran with nukes over a strong one that could build nukes but doesn't. You see that happening right now with Iran ramping up enrichment again, and if they play their cards right, they can absolutely go the North Korea route and get it done.
calcifer 7y ago
> I personally am strongly for stopping nuclear proliferation around the world > I want to see India and Pakistan give up their weapons Since you are so strongly against nuclear weapons, wouldn't you agree the US should lead by example instead of "do as I say, not as I do" (which is the current policy) and start by giving up its own nukes? Be the change you want to see in the world and all that.

arjmandi 7y ago

That's the dream, all we need right now is support from the tech community to come to an agreement for opening new windows for innocent people who have contributed a lot to science, tech, art and culture of the entire world. They can make a change, a real difference

dingoegret 7y ago

You'll never get them to give it up. The US and China are major threats and the actions of those two powers have bolstered not diminished the idea that countries need nuclear deterrent. If the US wants to change things, it must change it's behavior.

miracle2k 7y ago

Then you should know that the people who wanted the US to drop the Non-Proliferation deal with Iran known as the JCPOA did so because they are willing to put geopolitical considerations, specifically alignment with Israel and Saudi Arabia, before proliferation concerns. To put it another way, if the had to choose, they would choose a weak isolated Iran with nukes over a strong one that could build nukes but doesn't. You see that happening right now with Iran ramping up enrichment again, and if they play their cards right, they can absolutely go the North Korea route and get it done.

calcifer 7y ago

> I personally am strongly for stopping nuclear proliferation around the world > I want to see India and Pakistan give up their weapons Since you are so strongly against nuclear weapons, wouldn't you agree the US should lead by example instead of "do as I say, not as I do" (which is the current policy) and start by giving up its own nukes? Be the change you want to see in the world and all that.