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> The Chinese govt is pouring huge amounts of resources into training homegrown chip designers. They're doing it based on RISC-V. Frankly both of those stateme

> The Chinese govt is pouring huge amounts of resources into training homegrown chip designers. They're doing it based on RISC-V. Frankly both of those statements are true of all major industrial nations.

ulfw 7y ago
France and Germany put huge amounts of money into training chip designers? Huh?
- orbifold 7y ago
  Germany is investing 3 billion in deep learning accelerators and all the big automotive companies are investing large amounts aswell. They want to own the supply chain, just as they used to. There are even some army guys sitting in the negotiations (unusual for Germany).
  - AnonymousPlanet 7y ago
    Could you point us to some sources for that? I'm really curious
    - lnsru 7y ago
      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-intelligence/germany-plans-3-billion-in-ai-investment-government-paper-idUSKCN1NI1AP https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-intelligence/germ... Though I don’t trust this. I guess, this money will be accessible only to companies having dedicated departments writing grants (like the big car companies) and it will be wasted at the end. This country should start immediately increasing salaries in research institutions and stop that nonsense with many many 1 year contracts for scientific staff.
- cyberpunk 7y ago
  IFX are based in Germany, they employ a lot of people doing such work and definitely have a graduate programme..
zaphirplane 7y ago
Name 3 governments that are pumping close to that
- microcolonel 7y ago
  UC Berkeley receives hundreds of millions of dollars in funding from the U.S. Federal government, and some of that is certainly going to the BAR (and they are by far not the only ones). India is outright commissioning the research and design of at least four distinct RISC-V chips (SHAKTI) through IIT Madras. And (although the absolute amounts are smaller, the proportion is not really) many smaller countries through institutions like ETH Zürich are spending a lot of money on microarchitecture and IC design research, most with RISC-V involved. When it comes to IC design more broadly, just put in Google/DDG the name of an industrial nation and a couple other related words, and enjoy the results. I could think of more if it was my job, but I don't see why you'd dismiss it out of hand. Why would it be so personally important to you that the Chinese government is seen as greatest state sponsor of microarchitectural research using RISC-V?

ulfw 7y ago

France and Germany put huge amounts of money into training chip designers? Huh?

orbifold 7y ago
Germany is investing 3 billion in deep learning accelerators and all the big automotive companies are investing large amounts aswell. They want to own the supply chain, just as they used to. There are even some army guys sitting in the negotiations (unusual for Germany).
- AnonymousPlanet 7y ago
  Could you point us to some sources for that? I'm really curious
  - lnsru 7y ago
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-intelligence/germany-plans-3-billion-in-ai-investment-government-paper-idUSKCN1NI1AP https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-intelligence/germ... Though I don’t trust this. I guess, this money will be accessible only to companies having dedicated departments writing grants (like the big car companies) and it will be wasted at the end. This country should start immediately increasing salaries in research institutions and stop that nonsense with many many 1 year contracts for scientific staff.
cyberpunk 7y ago
IFX are based in Germany, they employ a lot of people doing such work and definitely have a graduate programme..

zaphirplane 7y ago

Name 3 governments that are pumping close to that

microcolonel 7y ago
UC Berkeley receives hundreds of millions of dollars in funding from the U.S. Federal government, and some of that is certainly going to the BAR (and they are by far not the only ones). India is outright commissioning the research and design of at least four distinct RISC-V chips (SHAKTI) through IIT Madras. And (although the absolute amounts are smaller, the proportion is not really) many smaller countries through institutions like ETH Zürich are spending a lot of money on microarchitecture and IC design research, most with RISC-V involved. When it comes to IC design more broadly, just put in Google/DDG the name of an industrial nation and a couple other related words, and enjoy the results. I could think of more if it was my job, but I don't see why you'd dismiss it out of hand. Why would it be so personally important to you that the Chinese government is seen as greatest state sponsor of microarchitectural research using RISC-V?