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The Apple press release also styled his name Sir Jony Ive. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019/06/jony-ive-to-form-independent-design-company-with-apple-as-clie
by bdowling 7y ago
The Apple press release also styled his name Sir Jony Ive. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019/06/jony-ive-to-form-independent-design-company-with-apple-as-client/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019/06/jony-ive-to-form-inde...
I would go one step further and say that aristocracy is fundamentally un-American.
- unfunco 7y agoIt's not really aristocracy, it's essentially the equivalent of the Medal of Freedom, for Jony Ive it's a civilian honour; David Beckham isn't an aristocrat either.
- bdowling 7y agoA fair point. It’s not a hereditary title, so it’s not the same thing. And yes, the U.S. gives out medals as well, but we don’t call the recipients knights or give them special appellations.
- foldr 7y agoLots of people get special appellations in the US. E.g. professors, doctors, priests, reverends.
- 9dev 7y agoI usually wouldn't comment on this, but I can't look past that "un-American". You guys _do_ realize there is, and through the entire history of the USA has been, a fully-fledged industrial aristocracy in place? Just because you don't call them "Sir" but landlord, investor or entrepreneur doesn't change a single thing. Just look at the history of rich ranch owners... Humans are the same, everywhere.
- fauigerzigerk 7y ago>You guys _do_ realize there is, and through the entire history of the USA has been, a fully-fledged industrial aristocracy in place? How is that consistent with the fact that the five largest US corporations by market cap (Microsoft, Amazon, Apple, Alphabet and Facebook) have not been passed on to offspring and were not started by descendents of the industrial elite of the country? I agree that social mobility is lacking by in many ways, but the result is clearly not a fully-fledged industrial aristocracy.