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I'm the same way and most of the people I know IRL are the same way. It seems like it's only online that I hear people complain about the keyboard and the lack

I'm the same way and most of the people I know IRL are the same way. It seems like it's only online that I hear people complain about the keyboard and the lack of ports. The biggest complaint online that I see is the physical escape key (and I'm even a developer and don't care about it) and I have yet to meet a single person who has that complaint.

inopinatus 7y ago
> I have yet to meet a single person who has that complaint We haven't met, but hi. I have that complaint. The omission of a physical escape key is the reason I cancelled my MacBook Pro order. I tried training myself on my MacBook with a remapped Caps Lock but to no avail. Vim habits die hard.
- dpkonofa 7y ago
  That's completely contrary to my point. You're still just a random person online from Hacker News. The vast majority of people that aren't on a niche website like this have no issues with the keyboard. I haven't gotten a single complaint related to the keyboards from our employees using MacBooks. In fact, overall, we get far less complaints about the MacBooks, in general, than we do with our Dell and HP laptops.
  - inopinatus 7y ago
    None of that invalidates my experience.
    - dpkonofa 7y ago
      I never said it does. I just said that only a minority of niche customers actually hold the same opinion as you. The vast majority of people are perfectly happy with both the new keyboards and the lack of a physical escape key. You don't prefer it but that has to mean that you're a minority of the population that buys their products.
      - inopinatus 7y ago
        Indeed. In this, and other things besides. Consequentially I've learned to be distrustful of majorities, and their self-appointed spokespeople in particular. Back on topic, though: thankfully the new Air has an Escape key and enough grunt to develop on (the MacBook being underpowered for some tasks). I was not looking forward to exiting the Apple/OSX ecosystem for my next laptop.

inopinatus 7y ago

> I have yet to meet a single person who has that complaint We haven't met, but hi. I have that complaint. The omission of a physical escape key is the reason I cancelled my MacBook Pro order. I tried training myself on my MacBook with a remapped Caps Lock but to no avail. Vim habits die hard.

dpkonofa 7y ago
That's completely contrary to my point. You're still just a random person online from Hacker News. The vast majority of people that aren't on a niche website like this have no issues with the keyboard. I haven't gotten a single complaint related to the keyboards from our employees using MacBooks. In fact, overall, we get far less complaints about the MacBooks, in general, than we do with our Dell and HP laptops.
- inopinatus 7y ago
  None of that invalidates my experience.
  - dpkonofa 7y ago
    I never said it does. I just said that only a minority of niche customers actually hold the same opinion as you. The vast majority of people are perfectly happy with both the new keyboards and the lack of a physical escape key. You don't prefer it but that has to mean that you're a minority of the population that buys their products.
    - inopinatus 7y ago
      Indeed. In this, and other things besides. Consequentially I've learned to be distrustful of majorities, and their self-appointed spokespeople in particular. Back on topic, though: thankfully the new Air has an Escape key and enough grunt to develop on (the MacBook being underpowered for some tasks). I was not looking forward to exiting the Apple/OSX ecosystem for my next laptop.