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Great of something that is ethically bulletproof but quite illegal!

ggm 7y ago
Depends on your economy. Specifically what he does is of course illegal but the general principle of removing drm from your own purchase isn't That the bitstream of semantically meaningful content is identical appears to be the key issue. Why does it matter how you get there?
- sjy 7y ago
  The general principle of removing DRM is forbidden, at least in the US, which is presumably why DRM removal tools are distributed through the same shady web sources as pirated content. "No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title." https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201
  - ggm 7y ago
    https://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/20-contracting-out/technological-protection-measures https://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/20-contracting-out/tech... I assumed it passed. Looks like it didn't pass, because of the US laws.
  - modsiw 7y ago
    But if it is circumvented then it wasn’t effectively controlling access; therefore, this isn’t applicable. A savvy lawyer might argue that’s not what’s meant by effectively, but it’s at least a little ambiguous.
    - sjy 7y ago
      The ambiguity is resolved by the explicit definition provided in the section: 'a technological measure "effectively controls access to a work" if the measure, in the ordinary course of its operation, requires the application of information, or a process or a treatment, with the authority of the copyright owner, to gain access to the work.' So the word 'effectively' isn't very effective here.
tim333 7y ago
Legal grey area. > But if you are making a copy so that you may use a copyrighted product in case the original is stolen, damaged or destroyed, your conduct may fall within the doctrine of fair use. https://info.legalzoom.com/copyright-law-making-personal-copies-22200.html https://info.legalzoom.com/copyright-law-making-personal-cop...
- saagarjha 7y ago
  I think the important bit is that you are making the copy.

ggm 7y ago

Depends on your economy. Specifically what he does is of course illegal but the general principle of removing drm from your own purchase isn't That the bitstream of semantically meaningful content is identical appears to be the key issue. Why does it matter how you get there?

sjy 7y ago
The general principle of removing DRM is forbidden, at least in the US, which is presumably why DRM removal tools are distributed through the same shady web sources as pirated content. "No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title." https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201
- ggm 7y ago
  https://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/20-contracting-out/technological-protection-measures https://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/20-contracting-out/tech... I assumed it passed. Looks like it didn't pass, because of the US laws.
- modsiw 7y ago
  But if it is circumvented then it wasn’t effectively controlling access; therefore, this isn’t applicable. A savvy lawyer might argue that’s not what’s meant by effectively, but it’s at least a little ambiguous.
  - sjy 7y ago
    The ambiguity is resolved by the explicit definition provided in the section: 'a technological measure "effectively controls access to a work" if the measure, in the ordinary course of its operation, requires the application of information, or a process or a treatment, with the authority of the copyright owner, to gain access to the work.' So the word 'effectively' isn't very effective here.

tim333 7y ago

Legal grey area. > But if you are making a copy so that you may use a copyrighted product in case the original is stolen, damaged or destroyed, your conduct may fall within the doctrine of fair use. https://info.legalzoom.com/copyright-law-making-personal-copies-22200.html https://info.legalzoom.com/copyright-law-making-personal-cop...

saagarjha 7y ago
I think the important bit is that you are making the copy.