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I prefer Library Genesis.

by TACIXAT 7y ago

brewdad 7y ago
PG has the advantage of being legal.
- yorwba 7y ago
  Except in countries where copyright terms are longer than in the US: https://cand.pglaf.org/germany/index.html https://cand.pglaf.org/germany/index.html
  - dheera 7y ago
    Meh, as long as their servers aren't in those countries, they can't do anything except censor the website. And most countries with long copyright terms don't censor websites.
    - cyphar 7y ago
      Project Gutenberg self-censored themselves to all German users in protest of the lawsuit.
      - dheera 7y ago
        If they did not have servers in Germany couldn't they have just ignored the lawsuit? They can make it illegal for Germans to use the site if they wish, but they can't go meddling in foreign media content. If Saudi Arabia serves you a lawsuit because you have a picture of a woman's face on a webpage without hijab, would you fly there to go to court? I'd just trash their lawsuit and never go there. They can block my site if they want -- same goes for Germany.
        mirimir 7y ago
        That's one of my go-to examples as well. I mean, even excluding porn and soft porn, the vast majority of Western media is likely illegal in Saudi Arabia.
        Reelin 7y ago
        > they can't go meddling in foreign [thing] ... GDPR? Granted, extraterritorial enforcement can be quite difficult.
        yorwba 7y ago
        They explain all this in the notice I linked above: ... Because PGLAF operates as a legitimate non-profit organization, however, it is appropriate to act as the German Court ordered - pending appeal - even though it disagrees with the order. ... The decision to acceed to the German Court's order to make items inaccessible from Germany is intended to be a temporary appeasement, while the appeal occurs - this is because the German appeal Court will likely look disfavorably on PGLAF if it shows contempt for the German Court. Ultimately, PGLAF seeks to establish that any complaints about copyright must be brought either to the US Courts (where PGLAF operates) or WIPO processes (as guided by international treaties). ...
- dredmorbius 7y ago
  Much of the material on LibGen would be legally accessible under the copyright terms in which it was originally published, but that their exclusivity has been retroactively extended.
- mirimir 7y ago
  That's arguably more of a limitation than an advantage. If your OPSEC is adequate, legality is irrelevant. And if that seems shocking, consider that legality <> morality.
madcow2011 7y ago
THANK YOU! I lost the name of the web site and was having trouble Google-ing the right phrase to find it again. Much appreciated.
- goatsi 7y ago
  I recommend bookmarking the Wikipedia page, people keep it updated with working domains. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_Genesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_Genesis
wolfgke 7y ago
Don't forget sci-hub, too.
- dredmorbius 7y ago
  NB: LibGen has all Sci-Hub content as well. Searchable by author, title, journal, etc., and not just DOI / URL.

I prefer Library Genesis.

brewdad 7y ago

PG has the advantage of being legal.

yorwba 7y ago
Except in countries where copyright terms are longer than in the US: https://cand.pglaf.org/germany/index.html https://cand.pglaf.org/germany/index.html
- dheera 7y ago
  Meh, as long as their servers aren't in those countries, they can't do anything except censor the website. And most countries with long copyright terms don't censor websites.
  - cyphar 7y ago
    Project Gutenberg self-censored themselves to all German users in protest of the lawsuit.
    - dheera 7y ago
      If they did not have servers in Germany couldn't they have just ignored the lawsuit? They can make it illegal for Germans to use the site if they wish, but they can't go meddling in foreign media content. If Saudi Arabia serves you a lawsuit because you have a picture of a woman's face on a webpage without hijab, would you fly there to go to court? I'd just trash their lawsuit and never go there. They can block my site if they want -- same goes for Germany.
      - mirimir 7y ago
        That's one of my go-to examples as well. I mean, even excluding porn and soft porn, the vast majority of Western media is likely illegal in Saudi Arabia.
      - Reelin 7y ago
        > they can't go meddling in foreign [thing] ... GDPR? Granted, extraterritorial enforcement can be quite difficult.
      - yorwba 7y ago
        They explain all this in the notice I linked above: ... Because PGLAF operates as a legitimate non-profit organization, however, it is appropriate to act as the German Court ordered - pending appeal - even though it disagrees with the order. ... The decision to acceed to the German Court's order to make items inaccessible from Germany is intended to be a temporary appeasement, while the appeal occurs - this is because the German appeal Court will likely look disfavorably on PGLAF if it shows contempt for the German Court. Ultimately, PGLAF seeks to establish that any complaints about copyright must be brought either to the US Courts (where PGLAF operates) or WIPO processes (as guided by international treaties). ...
dredmorbius 7y ago
Much of the material on LibGen would be legally accessible under the copyright terms in which it was originally published, but that their exclusivity has been retroactively extended.
mirimir 7y ago
That's arguably more of a limitation than an advantage. If your OPSEC is adequate, legality is irrelevant. And if that seems shocking, consider that legality <> morality.

madcow2011 7y ago

THANK YOU! I lost the name of the web site and was having trouble Google-ing the right phrase to find it again. Much appreciated.

goatsi 7y ago
I recommend bookmarking the Wikipedia page, people keep it updated with working domains. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_Genesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_Genesis

wolfgke 7y ago

Don't forget sci-hub, too.

dredmorbius 7y ago
NB: LibGen has all Sci-Hub content as well. Searchable by author, title, journal, etc., and not just DOI / URL.