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Jokes aside I recently setup a phpBB forum and me and friends are using IRC instead of discord. IRC is ridiculously fast and so is phpBB.

by davesmith1983 7y ago

errantspark 7y ago
What's made you migrate away from discord? I grew up on phpBB and IRC, but I've been using discord almost exclusively for all my social media needs. The seamless integration across desktop/mobile, the quick switcher, easy filesharing and the powerful search functionality seem like killer differentiators vs the oldschool way.
- wildleaf 7y ago
  IMO voice chat in discord is unreliable. The rest is great barring privacy concerns. I'd like to go back to mumble but my group's inertia is too strong.
  - xboxnolifes 7y ago
    Agree. I still use teamspeak as the primary voice chat with my main friend group. I use Discord for centralized access to different text channel groups.
    - errantspark 7y ago
      What sort of issues are you guys encountering? I use the voicechat constantly and I haven't found it to be problematic.
      - A2017U1 7y ago
        I use both discord and mumble regularly, mumble is consistently better and it's run on a tiny vps that's doing other reasonably demanding cpu and network tasks at the same time. Discord can go from great to terrible pretty quickly and the extra latency fluctuates a bit. ymmv.
  - cortesoft 7y ago
    But IRC has no voice chat, so that wouldn't be a reason to switch to IRC
    - mikekchar 7y ago
      They probably meant that while voice chat would normally be a reason to stop you from migrating from Discord, in this case it wasn't because the OP doesn't like Discord's voice chat. The rest is privacy concerns. I'm actually with the OP. IRC with Mumble is a pretty nice setup for casual conversations and it's really easy to self host (and takes very little resources). Filesharing is potentially a problem, but there are other services for that.
    - Endy 7y ago
      You can send .MP3 and .WAV files via DCC. Sure, it's pretty high on the latency, but it's a voice chat all the same.
- davesmith1983 7y ago
  They are starting to clamp down on the censorship of their platform and it will only get worse i.e. naughty words aren't allowed on discord (though it isn't policed that throughly). A friend of mine had one of our discord servers banned for "hate speech" even though we banned the individuals that made the posts and some of our members were banned simply for being on the same server. People signed up for accounts again with a different email but it besides the point really. The problem with almost all of these companies is that there is no straight forward TOS. So for example this is my rules on my board: > 1. Don't harass people. > 2. No doxing. > 3. Unless a board is marked NSFW avoid posting anything NSFW. > 4. Don't be abusive for the sake of it. > 5. Don't Spam. Now I am sure I will have to amend those at some point but they are straight forward and I intend to keep it that way. I am developing a youtube/twitch/reddit hybrid, I believe the comments on youtube are soo dire because fundamentally their commenting system is dire. I intend to keep that pretty much free-speech with almost no algorithms because I am fed up of things being manipulated constantly to the point where Youtube has kinda broken itself (about 3 years ago it was amazing for finding video of stuff). The same with Google search has got worse over the last few years because they are messing too much with the algorithm. Slightly aside. I am looking at a client for IRC that is easy to use and Discord-esque features. I believe it is possible to do a lot of this by simply getting the client itself to do a lot of the heavy lifting and using IRC more as a message broker. The thing is what do I build it in. One of the things I hate about Discord is Electron. It application is garbage on a mac and the web version performs better. Python's GUI tools are dire, so I am left really going to the C# or god forbid Java. I dunno enough about C++ to make a client in that and the other options are too esoteric tbh.
  - jamesmp98 7y ago
    > naughty words aren't allowed on discord (though it isn't policed that throughly). Any source on this. On all discord servers I've been on, there is little holding back on any of that and am just curious.
    - davesmith1983 7y ago
      https://archive.fo/K0q1f https://archive.fo/K0q1f I know that some servers have been shutdown because because of racial slurs but what is effectively illegal pornography (at least in the UK) is A-OK. Discord like every other company will enforce their TOS when they want to.
- the_jeremy 7y ago
  feature bloat. My girlfriend has a HDD and discord starting up is multiple minutes. Everything else she uses that computer for works as fast as you'd expect; discord is the only laggard.
derefr 7y ago
Fun fact: many dark web forums choose phpBB, because it's just as fully-featured with Javascript disabled (which all the security-conscious visitors will do as a matter of course.)

Jokes aside I recently setup a phpBB forum and me and friends are using IRC instead of discord. IRC is ridiculously fast and so is phpBB.

errantspark 7y ago

What's made you migrate away from discord? I grew up on phpBB and IRC, but I've been using discord almost exclusively for all my social media needs. The seamless integration across desktop/mobile, the quick switcher, easy filesharing and the powerful search functionality seem like killer differentiators vs the oldschool way.

wildleaf 7y ago
IMO voice chat in discord is unreliable. The rest is great barring privacy concerns. I'd like to go back to mumble but my group's inertia is too strong.
- xboxnolifes 7y ago
  Agree. I still use teamspeak as the primary voice chat with my main friend group. I use Discord for centralized access to different text channel groups.
  - errantspark 7y ago
    What sort of issues are you guys encountering? I use the voicechat constantly and I haven't found it to be problematic.
    - A2017U1 7y ago
      I use both discord and mumble regularly, mumble is consistently better and it's run on a tiny vps that's doing other reasonably demanding cpu and network tasks at the same time. Discord can go from great to terrible pretty quickly and the extra latency fluctuates a bit. ymmv.
- cortesoft 7y ago
  But IRC has no voice chat, so that wouldn't be a reason to switch to IRC
  - mikekchar 7y ago
    They probably meant that while voice chat would normally be a reason to stop you from migrating from Discord, in this case it wasn't because the OP doesn't like Discord's voice chat. The rest is privacy concerns. I'm actually with the OP. IRC with Mumble is a pretty nice setup for casual conversations and it's really easy to self host (and takes very little resources). Filesharing is potentially a problem, but there are other services for that.
  - Endy 7y ago
    You can send .MP3 and .WAV files via DCC. Sure, it's pretty high on the latency, but it's a voice chat all the same.
davesmith1983 7y ago
They are starting to clamp down on the censorship of their platform and it will only get worse i.e. naughty words aren't allowed on discord (though it isn't policed that throughly). A friend of mine had one of our discord servers banned for "hate speech" even though we banned the individuals that made the posts and some of our members were banned simply for being on the same server. People signed up for accounts again with a different email but it besides the point really. The problem with almost all of these companies is that there is no straight forward TOS. So for example this is my rules on my board: > 1. Don't harass people. > 2. No doxing. > 3. Unless a board is marked NSFW avoid posting anything NSFW. > 4. Don't be abusive for the sake of it. > 5. Don't Spam. Now I am sure I will have to amend those at some point but they are straight forward and I intend to keep it that way. I am developing a youtube/twitch/reddit hybrid, I believe the comments on youtube are soo dire because fundamentally their commenting system is dire. I intend to keep that pretty much free-speech with almost no algorithms because I am fed up of things being manipulated constantly to the point where Youtube has kinda broken itself (about 3 years ago it was amazing for finding video of stuff). The same with Google search has got worse over the last few years because they are messing too much with the algorithm. Slightly aside. I am looking at a client for IRC that is easy to use and Discord-esque features. I believe it is possible to do a lot of this by simply getting the client itself to do a lot of the heavy lifting and using IRC more as a message broker. The thing is what do I build it in. One of the things I hate about Discord is Electron. It application is garbage on a mac and the web version performs better. Python's GUI tools are dire, so I am left really going to the C# or god forbid Java. I dunno enough about C++ to make a client in that and the other options are too esoteric tbh.
- jamesmp98 7y ago
  > naughty words aren't allowed on discord (though it isn't policed that throughly). Any source on this. On all discord servers I've been on, there is little holding back on any of that and am just curious.
  - davesmith1983 7y ago
    https://archive.fo/K0q1f https://archive.fo/K0q1f I know that some servers have been shutdown because because of racial slurs but what is effectively illegal pornography (at least in the UK) is A-OK. Discord like every other company will enforce their TOS when they want to.
the_jeremy 7y ago
feature bloat. My girlfriend has a HDD and discord starting up is multiple minutes. Everything else she uses that computer for works as fast as you'd expect; discord is the only laggard.

derefr 7y ago

Fun fact: many dark web forums choose phpBB, because it's just as fully-featured with Javascript disabled (which all the security-conscious visitors will do as a matter of course.)